By: Democratic Slave Plantation « The Proletariat

Democratic Slave Plantation « The Proletariat — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:20:56 +0000

[...] write in Dick Cheney? He’s had eight years of “experience with foreign matters.” Blogging Blue: Bartoshevich uses that quote to justify her unwillingness to support the Democratic Party and its [...]

By: meg

meg — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:47:28 +0000

Check out the article posted this afternoon on BuzzFlash titled, “Traitor, tool or token trick? Questionable former Clinton delegate Debra Bartoshevich prefers identity politics to issues.” at http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/364

By: Zachary

Zachary — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:22:56 +0000

Kay, I emailed you, and I appreciate you adding some depth to the backstory here.

By: Kay

Kay — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:07:05 +0000

This is one of those stories that has a whole big picture to it and now the blogs, along with the MSM have condensed it into quips, soundbites, and catchy tags.
I know Deb personally, I recruited her and I did campaigning to get elected to delegate.
Some of the blame is mine for not really sitting her down and going over the DNC rules with her………..as if those rules are all that easy to go over anyway! Read the hoops you have to jump through to get to the caucus in the first place (incidently you do not need to be a member of the party to caucus or win as delegate–at least she joined the party). Some blame should go to party leaders who left her high and dry without direction or warnings.
Now, keep in mind that this is her first foray into political anything. Also, she has been besieged by the GOP and reporters who have–to my knowledge and experience- a way of getting you to say things that don’t always come out `100% accruate–she has also never had to go through that before.
She fucked up with one small thing. Her Iraq veteran/right winger sister gave her info to the Lieberman for McCain subunit of McCain’s party and got her to talk to them…………very bad sister, or very naive (I’m going with bad sister).
She has been stripped. It’s been a huge story. But, she was pledged to Hillary and still wanted to go as a Hillary delegate and work for Hillary’s issues. Do any of you think the McSame people told her she could do that? Nope. They pressed her for joining their group knowing full well that they could time this to coincide with the state party convention to get the greatest press. They knew she would be stripped. What they didn’t tell her was that she should stay with Hillary and if ifshe was not happy after the convention there would be a place for her in their camp.
Bottom line–she got hornswaggled in more ways than one.This has been my own personal hell since the story broke just before I got to the convention–upon getting there I have phone messages, notes on my credentials, you name it…………
Just try to keep in mind she was under a lot of pressure from her own sister to do this, feeling under assault by over zealous Obama suporrters, her own daughter is a self proclaimed republican……..Don’t think she is taking this lightly. She had no idea that it would turn into a big story.
Zach, you should write me directly and I can tell you all about some interesting side issues with this.

By: Mobile's Take

Mobile's Take — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:07:47 +0000

Zachary, I respectfully disagree. If we don’t show strength in the party then the McCain and his ilk will no doubt take full advantage. And what you will hear in the wing nut media is how split the democrats are.

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