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	<title>Comments on: Doyle orders furloughs of state employees</title>
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		<title>By: Zach W</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/05/07/doyle-orders-furloughs-of-state-employees/comment-page-2/#comment-12105</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 16:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse, you&#039;re right.  Another part of the problem is the fact that these consulting jobs are often payback to campaign supporters, as a way around Wisconsin&#039;s civil service laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse, you&#8217;re right.  Another part of the problem is the fact that these consulting jobs are often payback to campaign supporters, as a way around Wisconsin&#8217;s civil service laws.
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/05/07/doyle-orders-furloughs-of-state-employees/comment-page-2/#comment-12104</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 16:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that the consultants never go away.  They are like a drug you can never quit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that the consultants never go away.  They are like a drug you can never quit.
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		<title>By: Dane County on cost-cutting rampage &#171; The Sconz</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/05/07/doyle-orders-furloughs-of-state-employees/comment-page-2/#comment-12064</link>
		<dc:creator>Dane County on cost-cutting rampage &#171; The Sconz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] form of pay cuts, and the governor is aggressively pursuing attempts to cut back on state jobs and is even proposing 16 day furloughs for state employees to reduce this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] form of pay cuts, and the governor is aggressively pursuing attempts to cut back on state jobs and is even proposing 16 day furloughs for state employees to reduce this [...]
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		<title>By: Zach W</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/05/07/doyle-orders-furloughs-of-state-employees/comment-page-2/#comment-11879</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSchmoe, I stand corrected.  It appears some in the State Assembly &lt;a href=http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/45043247.html rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;will take furloughs&lt;/a&gt; as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JSchmoe, I stand corrected.  It appears some in the State Assembly <a href=http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/45043247.html rel="nofollow">will take furloughs</a> as well.
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		<title>By: Zach W</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/05/07/doyle-orders-furloughs-of-state-employees/comment-page-2/#comment-11870</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSchmoe, you&#039;re exactly right.  I don&#039;t hear any of them talking about giving back some of their fat raises...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JSchmoe, you&#8217;re exactly right.  I don&#8217;t hear any of them talking about giving back some of their fat raises&#8230;
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		<title>By: JSchmoe</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/05/07/doyle-orders-furloughs-of-state-employees/comment-page-2/#comment-11867</link>
		<dc:creator>JSchmoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well we all have to take a 4% Pay cut, but the Legislature voted themselves a nice FAT 5% RAISE.  Enough said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well we all have to take a 4% Pay cut, but the Legislature voted themselves a nice FAT 5% RAISE.  Enough said!
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		<title>By: Tranktn</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/05/07/doyle-orders-furloughs-of-state-employees/comment-page-2/#comment-11850</link>
		<dc:creator>Tranktn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 05:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, that is not true.  Similar to what happened in 1983, we are being furlowed again, this time for 8 days per fiscal year for 2 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, that is not true.  Similar to what happened in 1983, we are being furlowed again, this time for 8 days per fiscal year for 2 years.
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		<title>By: Zach W</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/05/07/doyle-orders-furloughs-of-state-employees/comment-page-2/#comment-11835</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tranktn, if I heard right, DAI security staff should be immune from furloughs and layoffs, because of the need to have the institutions fully staffed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tranktn, if I heard right, DAI security staff should be immune from furloughs and layoffs, because of the need to have the institutions fully staffed.
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		<title>By: Tranktn</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/05/07/doyle-orders-furloughs-of-state-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-11826</link>
		<dc:creator>Tranktn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 04:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work corrections in this lovely state.  I do not see how furloughs in a 24 hour care facility will help at all.  No matter who on what shift takes any of the 8 unpaid days off, there will be someone making time and a half because of it.  This will only cost the state MORE money in the long run.  However if they were to cut back on certain unnecessary programs within the institutions, i could see a very minute improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work corrections in this lovely state.  I do not see how furloughs in a 24 hour care facility will help at all.  No matter who on what shift takes any of the 8 unpaid days off, there will be someone making time and a half because of it.  This will only cost the state MORE money in the long run.  However if they were to cut back on certain unnecessary programs within the institutions, i could see a very minute improvement.
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consultants often may appear expensive in the short run.  But in reality, they are often cheaper in the long run.

(OBTW, I&#039;m an MBA, HR Manager that wrote my masters thesis on the cost effectiveness of consultants.)

For example:  It&#039;s much better to contract out the Marquette Interchange project instead of filling those positions with qualified state employees who’d probably be much cheaper in the short term, but would cost the state a ton if they stayed on the books forever. 

Contractors and consultants are basically paid to go away at the end of their contract.  That can be very valuable to the State.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consultants often may appear expensive in the short run.  But in reality, they are often cheaper in the long run.</p>
<p>(OBTW, I&#8217;m an MBA, HR Manager that wrote my masters thesis on the cost effectiveness of consultants.)</p>
<p>For example:  It&#8217;s much better to contract out the Marquette Interchange project instead of filling those positions with qualified state employees who’d probably be much cheaper in the short term, but would cost the state a ton if they stayed on the books forever. </p>
<p>Contractors and consultants are basically paid to go away at the end of their contract.  That can be very valuable to the State.
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