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		<title>By: Cray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, Allen Brey has never been one to actually PROTECT the rights he is sworn to uphold.  Look at the contempt in which he holds his constituents as well as the law:

http://www.nbc26.com/global/story.asp?s=10928521&amp;ClientType=Printable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Allen Brey has never been one to actually PROTECT the rights he is sworn to uphold.  Look at the contempt in which he holds his constituents as well as the law:</p>
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		<title>By: On 4th of July, cops dis distressed Iraq war veteran flying upside down flag. &#124; People v. State</title>
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		<dc:creator>On 4th of July, cops dis distressed Iraq war veteran flying upside down flag. &#124; People v. State</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] commenter on this blog post at Blogging Blue has it exactly right when he wrote: &#8220;I can think of nothing more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: eilen dover</title>
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		<dc:creator>eilen dover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think My local government didnt get their pockets lined.....They tried to prohibit buying, transporting or shooting off  fireworks....a longtime tradition for the 4th and New Years in Comal County Texas. Would have been nice if they implemented a safe location, Crains Mill Park? Hmmmmm I shudder to think how they would re-act to a U.S. Flag flown in distress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think My local government didnt get their pockets lined&#8230;..They tried to prohibit buying, transporting or shooting off  fireworks&#8230;.a longtime tradition for the 4th and New Years in Comal County Texas. Would have been nice if they implemented a safe location, Crains Mill Park? Hmmmmm I shudder to think how they would re-act to a U.S. Flag flown in distress.
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		<title>By: Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...You know how veterans react when they see that.” - Really?  What the heck kind of &quot;Barney Fife&quot; do they have in Marinette?  As a vet I LOVE seeing folks express themselves.  Is this town for real?  I hope this town gets is ass sued off, I hope ol Barney has to lick this guys boots, and the DA and village idiot.. I mean president are forced to raise that upside down flag and salute it before they issue their court ordered apology. 
Don&#039;t worry how a veteran will react to an upside down flag, worry about about how we&#039;ll react to the gov preventing ANYONE&#039;S freedom of speech!  
(Hmmm, maybe THAT&#039;s why the &#039;Bama administration considers vets potential terrorists... because we ain&#039;t gonna stand by when crap like this happens)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;You know how veterans react when they see that.” &#8211; Really?  What the heck kind of &#8220;Barney Fife&#8221; do they have in Marinette?  As a vet I LOVE seeing folks express themselves.  Is this town for real?  I hope this town gets is ass sued off, I hope ol Barney has to lick this guys boots, and the DA and village idiot.. I mean president are forced to raise that upside down flag and salute it before they issue their court ordered apology.<br />
Don&#8217;t worry how a veteran will react to an upside down flag, worry about about how we&#8217;ll react to the gov preventing ANYONE&#8217;S freedom of speech!<br />
(Hmmm, maybe THAT&#8217;s why the &#8216;Bama administration considers vets potential terrorists&#8230; because we ain&#8217;t gonna stand by when crap like this happens)
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		<title>By: John C</title>
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		<dc:creator>John C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These elected officials are way off the reservation.  It is up to the Police to keep the peace, not up to the police and local governments to dictate what is ok to say and what is not ok to say.

You let these folks take an inch today, guess how much they&#039;ll take tomorrow if no one challenges them.  Though a bit extreme compared to this...look at Germany before WW2.  Hitler went and did whatever he wanted...no one said anything.  Then one day folks looked around and found they had lost all their rights, self respect and dignity.  

Everything Vito did was Constitutional and well within his rights.  What the local yokels did was not only illegal it was in bad form.  Doubt Vito will ever get his liquor license now, but that is besides the point.  The pencil pushing narrow minded bureaucrats in the local and county governments should all be voted out of office.  

Oh and by the way, anyone ever been to Crivitz?  I have....all these vets were angry over the flag being upside down...right all 12 of them from a town that has maybe 1000 total residents...hardly enough to make up a chain gang!  What a joke! Who are these clowns fooling?  Someone got upset in a position of power and abused their position and in the process broke the law.  Vito has a case and you know what, all this time, energy and money could have been put to far greater use than what the elected officials will undoubtedly face should the ACLU sue, which they very much should and inflict as much political damage to these schmucks as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These elected officials are way off the reservation.  It is up to the Police to keep the peace, not up to the police and local governments to dictate what is ok to say and what is not ok to say.</p>
<p>You let these folks take an inch today, guess how much they&#8217;ll take tomorrow if no one challenges them.  Though a bit extreme compared to this&#8230;look at Germany before WW2.  Hitler went and did whatever he wanted&#8230;no one said anything.  Then one day folks looked around and found they had lost all their rights, self respect and dignity.  </p>
<p>Everything Vito did was Constitutional and well within his rights.  What the local yokels did was not only illegal it was in bad form.  Doubt Vito will ever get his liquor license now, but that is besides the point.  The pencil pushing narrow minded bureaucrats in the local and county governments should all be voted out of office.  </p>
<p>Oh and by the way, anyone ever been to Crivitz?  I have&#8230;.all these vets were angry over the flag being upside down&#8230;right all 12 of them from a town that has maybe 1000 total residents&#8230;hardly enough to make up a chain gang!  What a joke! Who are these clowns fooling?  Someone got upset in a position of power and abused their position and in the process broke the law.  Vito has a case and you know what, all this time, energy and money could have been put to far greater use than what the elected officials will undoubtedly face should the ACLU sue, which they very much should and inflict as much political damage to these schmucks as possible.
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		<title>By: eilen dover</title>
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		<dc:creator>eilen dover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.....are all symbols of liberty.

 
The upside down U.S. flag is an official signal of distress. It is not meant to be, and is not officially recognized as any type of disrespect when so displayed for the right reasons. To the contrary, here is the relevant part of the US Code of Laws regarding how to fly the flag when in distress: 

THE FLAG CODE 
Title 36, U.S.C., Chapter 10 
As amended by P.L. 344, 94th Congress
Approved July 7, 1976

§ 176. Respect for flag: No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights&#8230;..are all symbols of liberty.</p>
<p>The upside down U.S. flag is an official signal of distress. It is not meant to be, and is not officially recognized as any type of disrespect when so displayed for the right reasons. To the contrary, here is the relevant part of the US Code of Laws regarding how to fly the flag when in distress: </p>
<p>THE FLAG CODE<br />
Title 36, U.S.C., Chapter 10<br />
As amended by P.L. 344, 94th Congress<br />
Approved July 7, 1976</p>
<p>§ 176. Respect for flag: No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
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		<title>By: Toomy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free speech except when I don&#039;t like it... seems to be the way this country operates... they hypocrisy is so bad that America is in total denial, but not the rest of the world. We condemn the Afghans for forcing(?) women to cover themselves (most choose to for cultural reasons) yet we say NOTHING to the Saudi&#039;s who not only FORCE women to cover themselves, but the only country that women CAN&#039;T VOTE, women also can&#039;t drive (how stupid is that) and women can&#039;t travel without husbands permission... so DON&#039;T tell me about how horrible women have it in other countries when we IGNORE the country that gave us the 9/11 hijackers (Saudi Arabia)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free speech except when I don&#8217;t like it&#8230; seems to be the way this country operates&#8230; they hypocrisy is so bad that America is in total denial, but not the rest of the world. We condemn the Afghans for forcing(?) women to cover themselves (most choose to for cultural reasons) yet we say NOTHING to the Saudi&#8217;s who not only FORCE women to cover themselves, but the only country that women CAN&#8217;T VOTE, women also can&#8217;t drive (how stupid is that) and women can&#8217;t travel without husbands permission&#8230; so DON&#8217;T tell me about how horrible women have it in other countries when we IGNORE the country that gave us the 9/11 hijackers (Saudi Arabia)..
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		<title>By: Zach W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So stewart, are you saying Congine should have expected the kind of response he got from polic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So stewart, are you saying Congine should have expected the kind of response he got from polic?
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		<title>By: Zach W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether he&#039;s a &quot;piece of crap&quot; or not, did his actions justify the response by police?  I say absolutely not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether he&#8217;s a &#8220;piece of crap&#8221; or not, did his actions justify the response by police?  I say absolutely not.
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		<title>By: Michael Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Received an e-mail from a Marine Vietnam combat veteran who knows a bit more about the flag and the Constitution than this idiot &quot;Lawrence&quot; above.

allen.brey@da.wi.gov
To:  Allen Brey
 
District Attorney
Marinette County
Marinette, WI 54143
 
Mr. Brey
 
In a number of nationwide protests, veterans groups have adopted the &quot;distress flag&quot; as an appropriate representation of a variety of problems.
 
These groups include the American Legion, Gathering of Eagles, Military Order of the Purple Heart, Operation Fire for Effect, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and others.
 
Some of the issues being protested are in Wisconsin and involve prosecution of disabled veterans by an &quot;overactive&quot; DVA Inspector General.  
 
If I might suggest, please contact me for clarification on this issue if sensitivity to the feelings of veterans your reason for taking a legal position inconsistent, perhaps inadvertently, with those of veterans.
 
Sometimes modes of expression change.  In this case, the upside down flag has been adopted and will become more and more common.  
 
thank you,
 
Gordon P. Duff
Chairman 
Editorial Board
www.veteranstoday.com
USMC Vietnam 1969/70
100% Combat Disabled Veteran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Received an e-mail from a Marine Vietnam combat veteran who knows a bit more about the flag and the Constitution than this idiot &#8220;Lawrence&#8221; above.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:allen.brey@da.wi.gov">allen.brey@da.wi.gov</a><br />
To:  Allen Brey</p>
<p>District Attorney<br />
Marinette County<br />
Marinette, WI 54143</p>
<p>Mr. Brey</p>
<p>In a number of nationwide protests, veterans groups have adopted the &#8220;distress flag&#8221; as an appropriate representation of a variety of problems.</p>
<p>These groups include the American Legion, Gathering of Eagles, Military Order of the Purple Heart, Operation Fire for Effect, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and others.</p>
<p>Some of the issues being protested are in Wisconsin and involve prosecution of disabled veterans by an &#8220;overactive&#8221; DVA Inspector General.  </p>
<p>If I might suggest, please contact me for clarification on this issue if sensitivity to the feelings of veterans your reason for taking a legal position inconsistent, perhaps inadvertently, with those of veterans.</p>
<p>Sometimes modes of expression change.  In this case, the upside down flag has been adopted and will become more and more common.  </p>
<p>thank you,</p>
<p>Gordon P. Duff<br />
Chairman<br />
Editorial Board<br />
<a href="http://www.veteranstoday.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.veteranstoday.com</a><br />
USMC Vietnam 1969/70<br />
100% Combat Disabled Veteran
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