Comments on: Save the Hoan Bridge? http://bloggingblue.com/2009/08/06/save-the-hoan-bridge/ Blogging Liberally in the Badger State Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:58:27 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ellen http://bloggingblue.com/2009/08/06/save-the-hoan-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-14189 Ellen Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:11:33 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=4525#comment-14189 If you restrict the hours that ships can come through the opening into the port, the ships will simply go elsewhere, and Milwaukee will lose millions of dollars in revenue, and port workers will lose their jobs, tug boat captains will lose their jobs. It costs millions of dollars a day to run a freighter, if you tell them they will have to wait hours to bring in their ship to unload, they will go to Green Bay, or Waukegan, or Chicago, and be taken care of immediately. If you restrict the hours that ships can come through the opening into the port, the ships will simply go elsewhere, and Milwaukee will lose millions of dollars in revenue, and port workers will lose their jobs, tug boat captains will lose their jobs. It costs millions of dollars a day to run a freighter, if you tell them they will have to wait hours to bring in their ship to unload, they will go to Green Bay, or Waukegan, or Chicago, and be taken care of immediately.

]]> By: Zach W http://bloggingblue.com/2009/08/06/save-the-hoan-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-13558 Zach W Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:08:06 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=4525#comment-13558 Raider, the City of Milwaukee might not be able to, but I'd guess the Port of Milwaukee has the authority to limit when traffic can come into the port, including the inner harbor. Raider, the City of Milwaukee might not be able to, but I’d guess the Port of Milwaukee has the authority to limit when traffic can come into the port, including the inner harbor.

]]> By: Jack Lohman http://bloggingblue.com/2009/08/06/save-the-hoan-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-13548 Jack Lohman Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:50:46 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=4525#comment-13548 The Hoan Bridge is a political issue. Count the campaign dollars transferring from the road builders to the politicians. First we pay them to put it up, then we pay them to tear it down, and then we pay them again to build a replacement. No, repaving makes the most sense, but politicians don't like logic. The Hoan Bridge is a political issue. Count the campaign dollars transferring from the road builders to the politicians. First we pay them to put it up, then we pay them to tear it down, and then we pay them again to build a replacement.

No, repaving makes the most sense, but politicians don’t like logic.

]]> By: Raider http://bloggingblue.com/2009/08/06/save-the-hoan-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-13545 Raider Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:37:09 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=4525#comment-13545 Commercial traffic goes under the bridge. i am not sure, but can the city the city can legally limit the times of bridges for commercial traffic? The City already has trouble with the lift bridges on the river, why add to the hassle and the already understaffed bridge crew. Commercial traffic goes under the bridge. i am not sure, but can the city the city can legally limit the times of bridges for commercial traffic?
The City already has trouble with the lift bridges on the river, why add to the hassle and the already understaffed bridge crew.

]]> By: Zach W http://bloggingblue.com/2009/08/06/save-the-hoan-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-13530 Zach W Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:35:31 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=4525#comment-13530 Anon, if/when I find the numbers, I'll post a followup. As for your second question, a total of $16 million was spent to demolish and replace the damaged section and retrofit the remainder of the bridge after the collapse in 2000. Anon, if/when I find the numbers, I’ll post a followup. As for your second question, a total of $16 million was spent to demolish and replace the damaged section and retrofit the remainder of the bridge after the collapse in 2000.

]]> By: Anon http://bloggingblue.com/2009/08/06/save-the-hoan-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-13528 Anon Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:49:16 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=4525#comment-13528 Zach...do you know when the numbers will be available?? Plus...didn't we just spend a lot of money fixing the Hoan Bridge?? Zach…do you know when the numbers will be available?? Plus…didn’t we just spend a lot of money fixing the Hoan Bridge??

]]> By: Zach W http://bloggingblue.com/2009/08/06/save-the-hoan-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-13357 Zach W Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:19:36 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=4525#comment-13357 E, to be honest, I don't know how much of a traffic problem lift bridges would create, because the proposal I saw would include specific times that ships would have to avoid entering the inner harbor, such as rush hour. And for all the times I've drive the Hoan to and from work, I can't honestly say I've ever seen a ship crossing under the Hoan during rush hour. E, to be honest, I don’t know how much of a traffic problem lift bridges would create, because the proposal I saw would include specific times that ships would have to avoid entering the inner harbor, such as rush hour. And for all the times I’ve drive the Hoan to and from work, I can’t honestly say I’ve ever seen a ship crossing under the Hoan during rush hour.

]]> By: silent E http://bloggingblue.com/2009/08/06/save-the-hoan-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-13354 silent E Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:40:28 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=4525#comment-13354 I'm always in a hurry.... I hate those fricken lift bridges. Oh well. I’m always in a hurry…. I hate those fricken lift bridges. Oh well.

]]> By: Zach W http://bloggingblue.com/2009/08/06/save-the-hoan-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-13353 Zach W Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:26:00 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=4525#comment-13353 E, I haven't seen a cost estimate for replacing the Hoan with a street-level thoroughfare. Ideally I'd like to see the Hoan stay as well, but not if it would be more cost effective to replace it with something lower. E, I haven’t seen a cost estimate for replacing the Hoan with a street-level thoroughfare. Ideally I’d like to see the Hoan stay as well, but not if it would be more cost effective to replace it with something lower.

]]> By: silent E http://bloggingblue.com/2009/08/06/save-the-hoan-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-13351 silent E Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:04:18 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=4525#comment-13351 Is there a price estimate on demolition of the Hoan and on a new surface street replacement? What will be the annual cost of power and staffing lift bridges? I use the Hoan all the time. I would like to see them keep it but cost is a definite factor. Is there a price estimate on demolition of the Hoan and on a new surface street replacement? What will be the annual cost of power and staffing lift bridges? I use the Hoan all the time. I would like to see them keep it but cost is a definite factor.

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