According to the local fire department…whose job it is to know how many people are gathering…the estimate number of people was around 75,000. That is what O’Reilly was reporting today and he doesn’t have any reason to down play the number and neither does the local fire department.
Just look at the time-lapse and the depth of people on the Mall. Def. not the 2 Million, but blind hubris would belittle 500k into 50k.
Besides, if you even read the space analysis that the presented with some reasonable ballpark figures, along with the people counters in DC that day, it’s definitely not unreasonable. Besides, crowd estimates are not even close to exact sciences, even for fire departments.
“crowd estimates are not even close to exact sciences”
And yet space analysis is?
yeah, but if you can look at the photos (the legit ones, not the one from the Promise Keepers march) and the time lapse videos and say there were tens of thousands of people, you’re either blinded by partisan politics or a fool.
Ok, if your point was not being classy, only a few of those fall into the offensive category, some are kind of pointless, and others are neither and benignly express their opinion.
Some of these signs say “Save Mother Earth Kill Bush,” “Bush is the Disease Death is the Cure,” “Death to Extremist Chrisitan Terrorist Pig Bush,” and numerous effigys of Bush being killed or beheaded.
I guess liberals can stay classy too. Time and again this blog focuses on the fringe, when only a few years ago it was the liberal fringe making all the fuss. You say hypocrisy, but really it is none other than your own hypocrisy. I guess you can keep posting it all you want to make yourselves feel good. I dsapprove of it on both ends of the political spectrum.
forgot, I’ve never argued there aren’t fringe elements on both sides of the political spectrum, and as I’ve noted before, I don’t condone the kinds of rhetoric akin to what you’ve noted. I think it’s safe to say I was no fan of George W. Bush, but I certainly wouldn’t advocate for his death, because that simply crosses the line, at least for me.
The “Bury Obamacare with Kennedy” sign is especially classy.
Yeah, why can’t both sides disagree with the other side’s ideas without hating each other. Can you really be proud carrying a sign calling for the death of a President (Bush or Obama) just because you don’t like their plan or ideas?!
Given the opportunity, I wouldn’t mind attending such a rally on an issue I felt strongly about, but I would be embarrassed to be along side one of these extremists. The signs were just a sampling, hard to know if it was the majority of them or if they were being denounced by the majority. If only they knew their idiocy was conterproductive (but I’m sure they feel good about themselves), as liberal blogs and media will use this to paint broad strokes over all conservatives.
Other than signs, I thought the “na na na hey hey goodbye” chant at the inauguration to President Bush was also disrespectful and in poor taste. I would hope when Obama leaves office everyone in attendance applauds — you can applaud his service or applaud that he’s leaving. You can decide your own meaning, but at least it shows some respect. Being President is a tough job and I don’t think any of them are deliberatley out to be evil, even though the other party believes it is completely wrong-headed.
I know politics has always been a rough game, but is this really where we are headed? Bush pledged to be a uniter after a controversial election. He was on that course, but 9/11 forced some black and white decisions. Obama seemed to pledge the same uniting with his hope and change but hasn’t made much of an attempt thus far.
The only issue I have with this post is the headline targeting the GOP. The crazy elements among the tea-baggers are just as likely to be Larouchites or Libertarians as Republican voters. I suspect a lot of them vote for the Constitution Party candidate whenever there is one. Yes, some GOP politicians are shamelessly courting these people (reminiscent of the party’s shameful Southern Strategy of decades past). It is valid to lampoon the pandering by GOP politicians (like by Rick Perry at the first round of tea parties), but not to conflate the crazy wing-nuts with a party to which there is no evidence that they belong.
This tea parties are just idiotic. Former President Carter said recently that these tea parties and the Joe Wilson comment are all becuase he’s black. I think race has a part of it but its not the big reason. Estimated guess of race at the tea parties less than 5%, the other 95% are sour grapes and cry babies that are mad because McCain is not President. They remind of my 8 year old niece when she throws a tantrum for losing at a boardgame. MCCAIN LOST, GET OVER IT PEOPLE!
What the reason.tv video of their interviews at the tea party. It’s a very different view than the collection of all the most fringe people we’ve mostly been seeing.
But also watch the video and see how many of them aren’t “crying because McCain lost” but express just as much frustration at the Republican party and at the excessive spending and debt of the Bush Administration.
But sure, dismiss it all as racism if that makes you feel more comfortable.
Crudahy resident’s comment….”Estimated guess of race at the tea parties less than 5%,…”
Locke’s comment…”But sure, dismiss it all as racism if that makes you feel more comfortable.”
How does “less than 5%” get turned into “dismiss it all as racism”??? Since when does 5% = all??
Having read enough comments on blogs about President Obama where bloggers refer to him using the “N” word…it’s not unreasonable to believe less than 5% of the people at the tea parties are there because they are racist. It doesn’t mean they are “all” racist.
I’ll admit, I think I may have misread the post I was commenting on. When I read,
Estimated guess of race at the tea parties less than 5%,
I took that to mean that minorities represented less than 5%, that Crudahy resident was saying it was nothing but white people at the protests. Given what former President Carter and others are putting out there, there are plenty of people making the accusation that the dissent of Obama’s policies is because of deeply seeded racism. If I incorrectly attributed that to Crudahy resident, I apologize.
That said, his point that 95% of the people are just crying because McCain lost, is just plain silly. A very good chunk of those people didn’t vote for McCain, many that did, did so by default and without really supporting him. I’d wager that for almost all, McCain never once entered into their minds with regard to their decision to march. They were mad at Bush for excessive spending and debt, and furious at Obama for using what he was handed from Bush as a starting point and exploding from there.
You silly clown. I don’t even know why I waste my time, but really?
Pulling a picture of 19 signs from a demonstration of 500,000+/- does not a plurality make, my little grasshopper.
Funny, you guys have entire networks that constitute the Obama Admin. mouthpiece, and you have to resort to Kos? I’m disappointed to say the least.
“500,000+/-“…???
Yep.
Sorry.
Yeah, not so much. Try 50,000….maybe.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tea-party-protesters-march-washington/story?id=8557120
Dammit. http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=21884
According to the local fire department…whose job it is to know how many people are gathering…the estimate number of people was around 75,000. That is what O’Reilly was reporting today and he doesn’t have any reason to down play the number and neither does the local fire department.
Just look at the time-lapse and the depth of people on the Mall. Def. not the 2 Million, but blind hubris would belittle 500k into 50k.
Besides, if you even read the space analysis that the presented with some reasonable ballpark figures, along with the people counters in DC that day, it’s definitely not unreasonable. Besides, crowd estimates are not even close to exact sciences, even for fire departments.
“crowd estimates are not even close to exact sciences”
And yet space analysis is?
yeah, but if you can look at the photos (the legit ones, not the one from the Promise Keepers march) and the time lapse videos and say there were tens of thousands of people, you’re either blinded by partisan politics or a fool.
Ok, if your point was not being classy, only a few of those fall into the offensive category, some are kind of pointless, and others are neither and benignly express their opinion.
Were you equally offended at the extreme anti-Bush rhetoric the last 8 years or was that all well and good free speech? Care to claim that they didn’t cross the line? Here’s a link to a few: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/20/media-didnt-care-about-protest-signs-threatening-bush
Some of these signs say “Save Mother Earth Kill Bush,” “Bush is the Disease Death is the Cure,” “Death to Extremist Chrisitan Terrorist Pig Bush,” and numerous effigys of Bush being killed or beheaded.
I guess liberals can stay classy too. Time and again this blog focuses on the fringe, when only a few years ago it was the liberal fringe making all the fuss. You say hypocrisy, but really it is none other than your own hypocrisy. I guess you can keep posting it all you want to make yourselves feel good. I dsapprove of it on both ends of the political spectrum.
forgot, I’ve never argued there aren’t fringe elements on both sides of the political spectrum, and as I’ve noted before, I don’t condone the kinds of rhetoric akin to what you’ve noted. I think it’s safe to say I was no fan of George W. Bush, but I certainly wouldn’t advocate for his death, because that simply crosses the line, at least for me.
The “Bury Obamacare with Kennedy” sign is especially classy.
Yeah, why can’t both sides disagree with the other side’s ideas without hating each other. Can you really be proud carrying a sign calling for the death of a President (Bush or Obama) just because you don’t like their plan or ideas?!
Given the opportunity, I wouldn’t mind attending such a rally on an issue I felt strongly about, but I would be embarrassed to be along side one of these extremists. The signs were just a sampling, hard to know if it was the majority of them or if they were being denounced by the majority. If only they knew their idiocy was conterproductive (but I’m sure they feel good about themselves), as liberal blogs and media will use this to paint broad strokes over all conservatives.
Other than signs, I thought the “na na na hey hey goodbye” chant at the inauguration to President Bush was also disrespectful and in poor taste. I would hope when Obama leaves office everyone in attendance applauds — you can applaud his service or applaud that he’s leaving. You can decide your own meaning, but at least it shows some respect. Being President is a tough job and I don’t think any of them are deliberatley out to be evil, even though the other party believes it is completely wrong-headed.
I know politics has always been a rough game, but is this really where we are headed? Bush pledged to be a uniter after a controversial election. He was on that course, but 9/11 forced some black and white decisions. Obama seemed to pledge the same uniting with his hope and change but hasn’t made much of an attempt thus far.
The only issue I have with this post is the headline targeting the GOP. The crazy elements among the tea-baggers are just as likely to be Larouchites or Libertarians as Republican voters. I suspect a lot of them vote for the Constitution Party candidate whenever there is one. Yes, some GOP politicians are shamelessly courting these people (reminiscent of the party’s shameful Southern Strategy of decades past). It is valid to lampoon the pandering by GOP politicians (like by Rick Perry at the first round of tea parties), but not to conflate the crazy wing-nuts with a party to which there is no evidence that they belong.
This tea parties are just idiotic. Former President Carter said recently that these tea parties and the Joe Wilson comment are all becuase he’s black. I think race has a part of it but its not the big reason. Estimated guess of race at the tea parties less than 5%, the other 95% are sour grapes and cry babies that are mad because McCain is not President. They remind of my 8 year old niece when she throws a tantrum for losing at a boardgame. MCCAIN LOST, GET OVER IT PEOPLE!
What the reason.tv video of their interviews at the tea party. It’s a very different view than the collection of all the most fringe people we’ve mostly been seeing.
But also watch the video and see how many of them aren’t “crying because McCain lost” but express just as much frustration at the Republican party and at the excessive spending and debt of the Bush Administration.
But sure, dismiss it all as racism if that makes you feel more comfortable.
Crudahy resident’s comment….”Estimated guess of race at the tea parties less than 5%,…”
Locke’s comment…”But sure, dismiss it all as racism if that makes you feel more comfortable.”
How does “less than 5%” get turned into “dismiss it all as racism”??? Since when does 5% = all??
Having read enough comments on blogs about President Obama where bloggers refer to him using the “N” word…it’s not unreasonable to believe less than 5% of the people at the tea parties are there because they are racist. It doesn’t mean they are “all” racist.
I’ll admit, I think I may have misread the post I was commenting on. When I read,
I took that to mean that minorities represented less than 5%, that Crudahy resident was saying it was nothing but white people at the protests. Given what former President Carter and others are putting out there, there are plenty of people making the accusation that the dissent of Obama’s policies is because of deeply seeded racism. If I incorrectly attributed that to Crudahy resident, I apologize.
That said, his point that 95% of the people are just crying because McCain lost, is just plain silly. A very good chunk of those people didn’t vote for McCain, many that did, did so by default and without really supporting him. I’d wager that for almost all, McCain never once entered into their minds with regard to their decision to march. They were mad at Bush for excessive spending and debt, and furious at Obama for using what he was handed from Bush as a starting point and exploding from there.