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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/14/kohls-to-close-distribution-center-conservative-ignores-real-reason-why/comment-page-1/#comment-15342</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good point.  

I don&#039;t think they realize that these anti-business laws, regulations, and lack of right-to-work laws cause a real, tangible impact to the success of a business enterprise.  They also don&#039;t seem to realize that the shareholders of these companies --who receive dividend income from their profits and benefit from the capital gain of their stock--happen to be AFSCME pension funds.

They also expose their lack of critical thinking.  This was the one thing missing from the story.  No quote from Kohl&#039;s, etc.  My guess?  It&#039;s their first foot out the door, unless some real, tangible change happens.  Which is a goddamn shame, as Montgomery and Kellogg built that from a little ma and pa operation out of their Elmbrook location to an S&amp;P Retail powerhouse.  Within 10 years (unless something changes), 2,000 high-paying corporate jobs will be lost.  

WAKE UP!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good point.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think they realize that these anti-business laws, regulations, and lack of right-to-work laws cause a real, tangible impact to the success of a business enterprise.  They also don&#8217;t seem to realize that the shareholders of these companies &#8211;who receive dividend income from their profits and benefit from the capital gain of their stock&#8211;happen to be AFSCME pension funds.</p>
<p>They also expose their lack of critical thinking.  This was the one thing missing from the story.  No quote from Kohl&#8217;s, etc.  My guess?  It&#8217;s their first foot out the door, unless some real, tangible change happens.  Which is a goddamn shame, as Montgomery and Kellogg built that from a little ma and pa operation out of their Elmbrook location to an S&amp;P Retail powerhouse.  Within 10 years (unless something changes), 2,000 high-paying corporate jobs will be lost.  </p>
<p>WAKE UP!!!
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Zach, one other thing&quot;  When you accuse ME of being a &quot;real class act,&quot; remember that THIS ENTIRE POST started in an attempt to tug at the pants leg of county employee, union official, and prolific, semi-professional blogger &lt;b&gt;Chris Liebenthal,&lt;/b&gt; patriarch of that epitome of class known as &quot;Whallah!&quot; 

That, my friends, is freakin&#039; HILARIOUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Zach, one other thing&#8221;  When you accuse ME of being a &#8220;real class act,&#8221; remember that THIS ENTIRE POST started in an attempt to tug at the pants leg of county employee, union official, and prolific, semi-professional blogger <b>Chris Liebenthal,</b> patriarch of that epitome of class known as &#8220;Whallah!&#8221; </p>
<p>That, my friends, is freakin&#8217; HILARIOUS.
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Like I said…one day he and his cohorts will screw with the wrong person.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Says the guy posting anonymously. That&#039;s courageous.  You&#039;re a real internet hero.

OK, Zach, let&#039;s accept the Kohls flack&#039;s explanation that the facility was landlocked.  To keep the jobs here, near their headquarters, would have simply required Kohls to find an adequate parcel of land and construct a larger facility, or find an existing larger facility which better served their needs.

The simple fact is this:  They CHOSE not to.  &lt;b&gt;These jobs are not being lost, they&#039;re simply being lost by Wisconsin.&lt;/b&gt;  Larger facility = substantially larger property tax bill.  Higher energy costs.  More employees = Higher overhead, greater state regulation and compliance, etc.  Wisconsin is higher on the &quot;regulation and compliance&quot; than any other state I know, and I do business throughout the country.

&lt;b&gt;Kohls made a business decision to move these jobs out of state.&lt;/b&gt;  As a business owner, I can tell you unequivocally that Wisconsin&#039;s anti-business climate is well-documented by numerous sources and is no secret throughout the country; in fact, liquidation business has &lt;b&gt;SURGED&lt;/b&gt; since the combined reporting procedures became law, and I believe we&#039;ve only begun to scratch the surface on businesses leaving this state.

I stand by my statement.  Citing combined reporting as a catalyst of the recent spike in plant closings, the FACT is that you have &lt;b&gt;no one other than Wisconsin Democrats&lt;/b&gt; to thank for this.  I would encourage you and your readers to visit the DWD&#039;s Plant Closing and Mass Layoff listing, as I do EVERY DAY, and document first-hand the number of COMPLETE FACILITY CLOSINGS - not just layoffs, but closings - that have taken place this year.  

You can do so at this link:

http://worknet.wisconsin.gov/worknet/downloads.aspx?menuselection=da&amp;pgm=pcml

Remember, a plant CLOSING, in many cases (unless the company is ceasing to exist, not the case with Kohls, or many of the other highly-publicized plant closings that have taken place in Wisconsin in 2009) &lt;b&gt;the jobs are going somewhere.&lt;/b&gt;  They&#039;re just not going to Wisconsin.

To argue that Kohls decision had NOTHING to do with Wisconsin&#039;s well-documented anti-business climate would be naive and juvenile.

Remember this the next time you decide to use something I wrote in an attempt to advance your own ridiculous assertions.

Oh, and &quot;Anon,&quot; perhaps that &quot;wrong person&quot; could be YOU, but if you&#039;re hoping to build a case, you&#039;re going to have to start using your real name first.  You&#039;re a dork.  LMAO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Like I said…one day he and his cohorts will screw with the wrong person.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Says the guy posting anonymously. That&#8217;s courageous.  You&#8217;re a real internet hero.</p>
<p>OK, Zach, let&#8217;s accept the Kohls flack&#8217;s explanation that the facility was landlocked.  To keep the jobs here, near their headquarters, would have simply required Kohls to find an adequate parcel of land and construct a larger facility, or find an existing larger facility which better served their needs.</p>
<p>The simple fact is this:  They CHOSE not to.  <b>These jobs are not being lost, they&#8217;re simply being lost by Wisconsin.</b>  Larger facility = substantially larger property tax bill.  Higher energy costs.  More employees = Higher overhead, greater state regulation and compliance, etc.  Wisconsin is higher on the &#8220;regulation and compliance&#8221; than any other state I know, and I do business throughout the country.</p>
<p><b>Kohls made a business decision to move these jobs out of state.</b>  As a business owner, I can tell you unequivocally that Wisconsin&#8217;s anti-business climate is well-documented by numerous sources and is no secret throughout the country; in fact, liquidation business has <b>SURGED</b> since the combined reporting procedures became law, and I believe we&#8217;ve only begun to scratch the surface on businesses leaving this state.</p>
<p>I stand by my statement.  Citing combined reporting as a catalyst of the recent spike in plant closings, the FACT is that you have <b>no one other than Wisconsin Democrats</b> to thank for this.  I would encourage you and your readers to visit the DWD&#8217;s Plant Closing and Mass Layoff listing, as I do EVERY DAY, and document first-hand the number of COMPLETE FACILITY CLOSINGS &#8211; not just layoffs, but closings &#8211; that have taken place this year.  </p>
<p>You can do so at this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://worknet.wisconsin.gov/worknet/downloads.aspx?menuselection=da&#038;pgm=pcml" rel="nofollow">http://worknet.wisconsin.gov/worknet/downloads.aspx?menuselection=da&#038;pgm=pcml</a></p>
<p>Remember, a plant CLOSING, in many cases (unless the company is ceasing to exist, not the case with Kohls, or many of the other highly-publicized plant closings that have taken place in Wisconsin in 2009) <b>the jobs are going somewhere.</b>  They&#8217;re just not going to Wisconsin.</p>
<p>To argue that Kohls decision had NOTHING to do with Wisconsin&#8217;s well-documented anti-business climate would be naive and juvenile.</p>
<p>Remember this the next time you decide to use something I wrote in an attempt to advance your own ridiculous assertions.</p>
<p>Oh, and &#8220;Anon,&#8221; perhaps that &#8220;wrong person&#8221; could be YOU, but if you&#8217;re hoping to build a case, you&#8217;re going to have to start using your real name first.  You&#8217;re a dork.  LMAO.
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a POS would use something like that as a threat to stifle a person&#039;s free speech.  He could argue the merits of your post but instead he is using a personal/private issue to get you to shut up and not take him on.  Like I said...one day he and his cohorts will screw with the wrong person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a POS would use something like that as a threat to stifle a person&#8217;s free speech.  He could argue the merits of your post but instead he is using a personal/private issue to get you to shut up and not take him on.  Like I said&#8230;one day he and his cohorts will screw with the wrong person.
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		<title>By: Zach W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon, there&#039;s nothing to threaten or blackmail with.  The last name crack Bruce made happens to be in reference to the fact that the last name I have now, which is my birth father&#039;s last name, was not always my last name.  I&#039;ve had my last name legally changed to reflect who I am and who my father was.  Bruce happens to know the back story from a conversation he and I had many months ago, and I can only guess that he&#039;s subtly threatening to make that story public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon, there&#8217;s nothing to threaten or blackmail with.  The last name crack Bruce made happens to be in reference to the fact that the last name I have now, which is my birth father&#8217;s last name, was not always my last name.  I&#8217;ve had my last name legally changed to reflect who I am and who my father was.  Bruce happens to know the back story from a conversation he and I had many months ago, and I can only guess that he&#8217;s subtly threatening to make that story public.
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zach...That&#039;s all they have over there...threats...blackmail.  One day they will screw with the wrong person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach&#8230;That&#8217;s all they have over there&#8230;threats&#8230;blackmail.  One day they will screw with the wrong person.
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		<title>By: Zach W</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/14/kohls-to-close-distribution-center-conservative-ignores-real-reason-why/comment-page-1/#comment-15300</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for proving my point, Bruce.

As for your mention of my last name, it&#039;s no secret what my last name is, so I&#039;m not exactly sure what you gain from that.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;re hoping mentioning the situation involving my last name will bother me, but that couldn&#039;t be further from the truth.  

However, the fact that you felt the need to bring it up only serves to prove how small and petty you really are, and that&#039;s unfortunate, because I thought, based on the one conversation we had long ago, that you were a better man than that.  Apparently, I was sorely mistaken, but I&#039;ll chalk that up as a lesson learned about what kind of person you really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for proving my point, Bruce.</p>
<p>As for your mention of my last name, it&#8217;s no secret what my last name is, so I&#8217;m not exactly sure what you gain from that.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re hoping mentioning the situation involving my last name will bother me, but that couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth.  </p>
<p>However, the fact that you felt the need to bring it up only serves to prove how small and petty you really are, and that&#8217;s unfortunate, because I thought, based on the one conversation we had long ago, that you were a better man than that.  Apparently, I was sorely mistaken, but I&#8217;ll chalk that up as a lesson learned about what kind of person you really are.
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about arguing the substance of what I wrote, Zach?

&lt;i&gt;Zach, Zach, Zach. I always liked you. I’ve always taken a “hands-off” approach where you were concerned.

Do you really want to take me on personally? Seriously? How quickly we forget.

What’s your REAL last name again? LOL&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about arguing the substance of what I wrote, Zach?</p>
<p><i>Zach, Zach, Zach. I always liked you. I’ve always taken a “hands-off” approach where you were concerned.</p>
<p>Do you really want to take me on personally? Seriously? How quickly we forget.</p>
<p>What’s your REAL last name again? LOL</i>
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		<title>By: Zach W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah Bruce, when all else fails, start throwing mud and getting personal.

You&#039;re a real class act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Bruce, when all else fails, start throwing mud and getting personal.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a real class act.
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		<title>By: Zach W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it Bruce?  Now you&#039;re the grammar police?

How about arguing the substance of what I wrote?

Go refer to the talking points in your emailbox and get back to me if you&#039;ve got something you&#039;d like to say about what I wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it Bruce?  Now you&#8217;re the grammar police?</p>
<p>How about arguing the substance of what I wrote?</p>
<p>Go refer to the talking points in your emailbox and get back to me if you&#8217;ve got something you&#8217;d like to say about what I wrote.
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