Comments on: Good luck in court, Jerry Bader! http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/29/good-luck-in-court-jerry-bader/ Blogging Liberally in the Badger State Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:09:54 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Zach W http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/29/good-luck-in-court-jerry-bader/comment-page-1/#comment-15667 Zach W Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:16:44 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=6603#comment-15667 Yeah, it seems more than a bit excessive to call the FCC. Let's wait and see how the station chooses to handle Bader once his suspension is over, because I have a feeling the other shoe hasn't dropped for Bader. Yeah, it seems more than a bit excessive to call the FCC. Let’s wait and see how the station chooses to handle Bader once his suspension is over, because I have a feeling the other shoe hasn’t dropped for Bader.

]]> By: Super Id http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/29/good-luck-in-court-jerry-bader/comment-page-1/#comment-15666 Super Id Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:00:34 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=6603#comment-15666 Call the FCC? Are you from the group of book burners that is perched out in front of the West Bend library? Call the FCC? Are you from the group of book burners that is perched out in front of the West Bend library?

]]> By: jimspice http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/29/good-luck-in-court-jerry-bader/comment-page-1/#comment-15631 jimspice Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:55:49 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=6603#comment-15631 Are you suggesting Bader would sell out his sources? Are you suggesting Bader would sell out his sources?

]]> By: Call the FCC http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/29/good-luck-in-court-jerry-bader/comment-page-1/#comment-15629 Call the FCC Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:47:42 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=6603#comment-15629 This can be stopped. Call the FCC, and complain. 1-888-225-5322 Bader is using a FCC radio lease, one owned by the American people, to spew garbage, racist immuendo and now blames a blog? This station must be held accountable fot allowing our license to be misused. Firing Bader is not enough. The station, also must pay for it's careless use of our license we let them use. This can be stopped.
Call the FCC, and complain.
1-888-225-5322

Bader is using a FCC radio lease, one owned by the American people, to spew garbage, racist immuendo and now blames a blog?

This station must be held accountable fot allowing our license to be misused.
Firing Bader is not enough. The station, also must pay for it’s careless use of our license we let them use.

]]> By: Hugh Jass http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/29/good-luck-in-court-jerry-bader/comment-page-1/#comment-15627 Hugh Jass Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:54:59 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=6603#comment-15627 Prediction: this never gets to court. He'll be let go and the station will make an official apology to Mrs. Lawton. Why? Because Bader was set up. There is ALWAYS more to these stories than the public sees. A court case would force the source out into the open, which is exactly why it won't happen. Jerry Bader is a smart man who presents his arguments well; any reasonably intelligent person should come to that conclusion no matter what their political affiliation or whether you agree with him or not. I'm not saying it's not possible, but it's highly unlikely a guy like that would be that stupid and toss that out on the air without having a high degree of confidence in his sources(s). Again, possible, but unlikely. Prediction: this never gets to court. He’ll be let go and the station will make an official apology to Mrs. Lawton. Why? Because Bader was set up. There is ALWAYS more to these stories than the public sees. A court case would force the source out into the open, which is exactly why it won’t happen. Jerry Bader is a smart man who presents his arguments well; any reasonably intelligent person should come to that conclusion no matter what their political affiliation or whether you agree with him or not. I’m not saying it’s not possible, but it’s highly unlikely a guy like that would be that stupid and toss that out on the air without having a high degree of confidence in his sources(s). Again, possible, but unlikely.

]]> By: Super Id http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/29/good-luck-in-court-jerry-bader/comment-page-1/#comment-15621 Super Id Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:21:12 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=6603#comment-15621 "Going to trial, much less actually getting a judgment on slander or libel is pretty rare." That's an accurate statement, there won't be a suit in this case. Moreover, "truth" is an affirmative defense to a slander/defmation suit. Oscar Wilde's defamation suit which allged he was defamed by being called a homosexual is a famous example--He lost after admitting on cross examination that he kissed boys. But in my opinion, the pre-trial discovery that Lawton would open herself up to would be the worst part. She would likely have to provide a list of all her sexual partners, each of who could be forced to answer questions regarding their relationship with Lawton. Obviously, this would be extremely invasive and would risk shedding the light on other skeletons she may have in her closet. “Going to trial, much less actually getting a judgment on slander or libel is pretty rare.”

That’s an accurate statement, there won’t be a suit in this case.

Moreover, “truth” is an affirmative defense to a slander/defmation suit. Oscar Wilde’s defamation suit which allged he was defamed by being called a homosexual is a famous example–He lost after admitting on cross examination that he kissed boys.

But in my opinion, the pre-trial discovery that Lawton would open herself up to would be the worst part. She would likely have to provide a list of all her sexual partners, each of who could be forced to answer questions regarding their relationship with Lawton. Obviously, this would be extremely invasive and would risk shedding the light on other skeletons she may have in her closet.

]]> By: Locke http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/29/good-luck-in-court-jerry-bader/comment-page-1/#comment-15618 Locke Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:43:17 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=6603#comment-15618 Personally, I've never had a problem with giving any politician the boot for affairs (same sex or otherwise). I don't see why it's so difficult to _not_ have sex with someone. But even more to the point - as an elected official, you know doing so may cost you your office or at the very least, weaken your ability to do your job, not to mention what it will do to your family. Whether that's fair or not, isn't the point, it will. Now, knowing that, if you choose to have an affair, it tells me you don't really care that much about those things or losing your job. It's a clear display of your commitment to your office. I don't really care if the story ends up being true for Lawton or not. The fact is, she was already on her way out. True or not, this was simply an attempt to hurt her. There is no argument for "the people deserve to know" since she pulled out. Personally, I’ve never had a problem with giving any politician the boot for affairs (same sex or otherwise). I don’t see why it’s so difficult to _not_ have sex with someone. But even more to the point – as an elected official, you know doing so may cost you your office or at the very least, weaken your ability to do your job, not to mention what it will do to your family. Whether that’s fair or not, isn’t the point, it will. Now, knowing that, if you choose to have an affair, it tells me you don’t really care that much about those things or losing your job. It’s a clear display of your commitment to your office.

I don’t really care if the story ends up being true for Lawton or not. The fact is, she was already on her way out. True or not, this was simply an attempt to hurt her. There is no argument for “the people deserve to know” since she pulled out.

]]> By: Anon http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/29/good-luck-in-court-jerry-bader/comment-page-1/#comment-15617 Anon Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:37:23 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=6603#comment-15617 "It’s sort of the same thing as accusing someone of being a racist for comments they never made. What goes around comes around." So...who did Lawton call a racist?? And BTW...it's not the same thing at all. It's far worse. “It’s sort of the same thing as accusing someone of being a racist for comments they never made. What goes around comes around.”

So…who did Lawton call a racist?? And BTW…it’s not the same thing at all. It’s far worse.

]]> By: john http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/29/good-luck-in-court-jerry-bader/comment-page-1/#comment-15616 john Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:16:18 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=6603#comment-15616 It's sort of the same thing as accusing someone of being a racist for comments they never made. What goes around comes around. My guess is that this story about Lawton is probably true. What it has to do withability to be gov, I don't know. Regardless...I'll admit he was pretty stupid for saying that on the air, but stupidity has been pretty strong on both sides of the aisle. It’s sort of the same thing as accusing someone of being a racist for comments they never made. What goes around comes around. My guess is that this story about Lawton is probably true. What it has to do withability to be gov, I don’t know.

Regardless…I’ll admit he was pretty stupid for saying that on the air, but stupidity has been pretty strong on both sides of the aisle.

]]> By: Locke http://bloggingblue.com/2009/10/29/good-luck-in-court-jerry-bader/comment-page-1/#comment-15615 Locke Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:59:12 +0000 http://bloggingblue.com/?p=6603#comment-15615 Going to trial, much less actually getting a judgment on slander or libel is pretty rare. My understanding is that this is because of how difficult they are to prove. It's not a matter of saying something untrue - you actually have to prove the person knew it was false and still said or wrote it out of malice. Well the malice part in this case shouldn't be a problem, but actually <b>proving</b>Bader knew it was false would be. That said, I really can't fathom what would possess Bader to put this out there. It's just classless. Beyond classless, beyond just doing the right thing because it's the right thing, this was just stupid. It looks to be not just a lie - but a stupid lie. I classify a stupid lie as one which will easily discovered to be false. What the hell was even the point? She's stepped out of the race already anyway. It's not like she's some major threat or something - and I am NOT saying that would justify it at all - just wondering what the heck the rationale was. I don't like Lawton as a politician - she's just way too out there. But on so many levels, the accusations are just garbage. If I actually listened to Bader, I wouldn't any more. Going to trial, much less actually getting a judgment on slander or libel is pretty rare. My understanding is that this is because of how difficult they are to prove. It’s not a matter of saying something untrue – you actually have to prove the person knew it was false and still said or wrote it out of malice. Well the malice part in this case shouldn’t be a problem, but actually provingBader knew it was false would be.

That said, I really can’t fathom what would possess Bader to put this out there. It’s just classless. Beyond classless, beyond just doing the right thing because it’s the right thing, this was just stupid. It looks to be not just a lie – but a stupid lie. I classify a stupid lie as one which will easily discovered to be false. What the hell was even the point? She’s stepped out of the race already anyway. It’s not like she’s some major threat or something – and I am NOT saying that would justify it at all – just wondering what the heck the rationale was.

I don’t like Lawton as a politician – she’s just way too out there. But on so many levels, the accusations are just garbage. If I actually listened to Bader, I wouldn’t any more.

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