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	<title>Comments on: Paul Ryan &#8211; Heartless &amp; on the Wrong Side of History</title>
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		<title>By: MadCityMan</title>
		<link>http://bloggingblue.com/2009/11/09/paul-ryan-heartless-on-the-wrong-side-of-history/comment-page-1/#comment-15887</link>
		<dc:creator>MadCityMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABA PAC (Political Action Committee) represents banks.  IBEW PAC represents unionized electrical workers.  The first is representing big businesses, the 2nd is representing workers.  While both are funding operations - 1 is for corporate donors, the other is for the people who work at big corporations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABA PAC (Political Action Committee) represents banks.  IBEW PAC represents unionized electrical workers.  The first is representing big businesses, the 2nd is representing workers.  While both are funding operations &#8211; 1 is for corporate donors, the other is for the people who work at big corporations.
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		<title>By: Jeff Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until we do get Campaign Financing that is so desperatly needed, our elected officials need to take money.  In a perfect world they wouldn&#039;t need to take such campaign contributions from anyone, but they do.    The donations are part of the equation.  The other part of the equation is how do they reward the donors.   In Paul Ryans case he takes donations from wall st and rewards them, which causes great harm to his district...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until we do get Campaign Financing that is so desperatly needed, our elected officials need to take money.  In a perfect world they wouldn&#8217;t need to take such campaign contributions from anyone, but they do.    The donations are part of the equation.  The other part of the equation is how do they reward the donors.   In Paul Ryans case he takes donations from wall st and rewards them, which causes great harm to his district&#8230;
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MadCityMan
I find it confusing that you believe that a PAC does not fall into the &#039;large corporate donors&#039; pile.  Without these lobbyists, it would essentially level the playing field for all candidates whether democrat, republican or independent.  Individuals like McCain-Feingold have spent a great deal of time writing and passing legislation that tried to level the playing field for all candidates.  Until we get rid of all large corporate donors and the PACs, the US will never be for the people and by the people, only for the corporations and PACs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MadCityMan<br />
I find it confusing that you believe that a PAC does not fall into the &#8216;large corporate donors&#8217; pile.  Without these lobbyists, it would essentially level the playing field for all candidates whether democrat, republican or independent.  Individuals like McCain-Feingold have spent a great deal of time writing and passing legislation that tried to level the playing field for all candidates.  Until we get rid of all large corporate donors and the PACs, the US will never be for the people and by the people, only for the corporations and PACs.
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		<title>By: MadCityMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadCityMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Mike,
Thanks for your comments.  

I suggest you do a bit of research before throwing out accusations.  While my blogging is an unpaid hobby, based on my beliefs and desire to help influence opinions, I spend a fair amount of time researching topics before posting them.  Given your assertions, I was curious about Gwen Moore&#039;s fund raising records, so I went to http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00026914 to see what I could find.  Here&#039;s the results - she has raised 31% from individuals and 67% from PACs.  So right there you have your facts wrong on the % from PACs.  While the ABA is one of her donors, among her 5 largest donors are organizations representing unions, organizations that don&#039;t fall under the &quot;large corporate donors&quot; category.  

Here&#039;s the list of her major donors:  

Painters &amp; Allied Trades Union $10,000  
American Bankers Assn $5,000  
Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $5,000  
Machinists/Aerospace Workers Union $5,000  
National Auto Dealers Assn $5,000 

Thanks again for your comments.
Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mike,<br />
Thanks for your comments.  </p>
<p>I suggest you do a bit of research before throwing out accusations.  While my blogging is an unpaid hobby, based on my beliefs and desire to help influence opinions, I spend a fair amount of time researching topics before posting them.  Given your assertions, I was curious about Gwen Moore&#8217;s fund raising records, so I went to <a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00026914" rel="nofollow">http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00026914</a> to see what I could find.  Here&#8217;s the results &#8211; she has raised 31% from individuals and 67% from PACs.  So right there you have your facts wrong on the % from PACs.  While the ABA is one of her donors, among her 5 largest donors are organizations representing unions, organizations that don&#8217;t fall under the &#8220;large corporate donors&#8221; category.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the list of her major donors:  </p>
<p>Painters &amp; Allied Trades Union $10,000<br />
American Bankers Assn $5,000<br />
Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $5,000<br />
Machinists/Aerospace Workers Union $5,000<br />
National Auto Dealers Assn $5,000 </p>
<p>Thanks again for your comments.<br />
Paul
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your post you cite &quot;protecting corporate donors&quot;.  So what about Gwen Moore?  Her campaign has raised almost 100% of her money from PACs and large corporate donors like the American Banking Association.  You can&#039;t criticize one side for collecting from corporations and not chide the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your post you cite &#8220;protecting corporate donors&#8221;.  So what about Gwen Moore?  Her campaign has raised almost 100% of her money from PACs and large corporate donors like the American Banking Association.  You can&#8217;t criticize one side for collecting from corporations and not chide the other.
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did boehner read his own substitute offered as an amendment that he brought to the floor during the final debate?  did anybody read it? 

please, the whole &quot;didn&#039;t read the bill&quot; argument is as empty as they come.  reading the bills is what you have a staff for.  they read it, write up the summaries and brief you.  unless you&#039;re a republican not named cao who simply does what the orange man tells you to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did boehner read his own substitute offered as an amendment that he brought to the floor during the final debate?  did anybody read it? </p>
<p>please, the whole &#8220;didn&#8217;t read the bill&#8221; argument is as empty as they come.  reading the bills is what you have a staff for.  they read it, write up the summaries and brief you.  unless you&#8217;re a republican not named cao who simply does what the orange man tells you to do.
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		<title>By: jeff simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when exactly did they read the bill?  do you think ryan read the patriot act?   do you think anyone read the patriot act?    I am sure though that paul ryan read the first bush bailout that didnt pass......that he voted for...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when exactly did they read the bill?  do you think ryan read the patriot act?   do you think anyone read the patriot act?    I am sure though that paul ryan read the first bush bailout that didnt pass&#8230;&#8230;that he voted for&#8230;
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		<title>By: ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all the fools that voted for this crap have to go.how many read the bill this time ? paul ryan is right there just creating more welfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all the fools that voted for this crap have to go.how many read the bill this time ? paul ryan is right there just creating more welfare.
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