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	<title>Comments on: WWJD?  Pre-school Child Kicked out of Catholic School due to Lesbian Parents</title>
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		<title>By: Locke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in agreement with this as well - the Church should be free to set whatever rules they wish, again as a &lt;b&lt;voluntary organization&lt;/b&gt;. Whether their positions are hypocritical or not is really irrelevant (though again I&#039;d say divorced/single parent homes are fundamentally different than gay parent ones). Along with the Church&#039;s right to set their own policies, people have a right to protest those policies (obviously within reason).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in agreement with this as well &#8211; the Church should be free to set whatever rules they wish, again as a &lt;b&lt;voluntary organization. Whether their positions are hypocritical or not is really irrelevant (though again I&#8217;d say divorced/single parent homes are fundamentally different than gay parent ones). Along with the Church&#8217;s right to set their own policies, people have a right to protest those policies (obviously within reason).
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		<title>By: Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, in service to clarity, the mission of a Catholic School is to assist the parents in the Catholic formation of their children.  If the parents obstinately reject the teaching of Jesus Christ in and through His Church, they fundamentally undermine or negate the school&#039;s mission in relation to their child.  If the parents are not committed to raising their child to be a faithful Catholic, and even a saint, the Catholic school cannot assist them.

Secondly, despite any impressions to the contrary, Jesus Christ in and through His Church, teaches that legal recognition of unions between homsexual persons is also against the objective moral law and must be opposed by every proffesed Catholic:
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in service to clarity, the mission of a Catholic School is to assist the parents in the Catholic formation of their children.  If the parents obstinately reject the teaching of Jesus Christ in and through His Church, they fundamentally undermine or negate the school&#8217;s mission in relation to their child.  If the parents are not committed to raising their child to be a faithful Catholic, and even a saint, the Catholic school cannot assist them.</p>
<p>Secondly, despite any impressions to the contrary, Jesus Christ in and through His Church, teaches that legal recognition of unions between homsexual persons is also against the objective moral law and must be opposed by every proffesed Catholic:<br />
<a href="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html</a>
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		<title>By: Super Id</title>
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		<dc:creator>Super Id</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree  with you PB. 

But I reserve the right to criticize those organizations when they set arbitrary and capricious boundaries. IMO, in less the School has also kicked out children from divorced or single parent homes they are being hypocritical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree  with you PB. </p>
<p>But I reserve the right to criticize those organizations when they set arbitrary and capricious boundaries. IMO, in less the School has also kicked out children from divorced or single parent homes they are being hypocritical.
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		<title>By: forgotmyscreenname</title>
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		<dc:creator>forgotmyscreenname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow I have a hard time believing that some multi-cultural center closed because the Catholic Church&#039;s local leaders were eargerly willing to close it down.  Didn&#039;t they start it in the first place?  Nothing obligates them to keep it open though.  And what does a multi-cultural center do anyway?  I suppose next you will suggest that the government run one because private charity can&#039;t be trusted.</description>
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		<title>By: MadCath</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadCath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MadCityMan—

Regarding your comments about Bishop Morlino and your flawed interpretation of Diocesan funding -- 

I know many Catholics who label Bishop Morlino not only outstanding, but also very holy.  

Diminished fund-raising results are due not to the Bishop, but to the economy – for example, in the last 2002 &quot;recession,&quot; which was much smaller than this one, tithing to Evangelical Churches was down 62% (http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/121-tithing-down-62-in-the-past-year ).  In the present recession, (September of 2009), numerous religious groups,including Jewish, Lutheran, Evangelical and Baptist, experienced millions of dollars in reduced income which forced them to close seminaries, campuses, and retrench their organizations (http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/07/local/me-beliefs7 ). 

Compared with these reports, the Diocese of Madison is not doing too badly right now in the midst of a severe recession. 

Bishop Morlino’s own Cathedral Parish had a 18% INCREASE in donations last year.  Cathedral Parish members contributed 175% of the amount requested by Bishop Morlino in last year’s  Annual Diocesan Appeal, in the midst of the recession. 

This holy man knows what he is doing, and his numerous supporters understand his and their mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MadCityMan—</p>
<p>Regarding your comments about Bishop Morlino and your flawed interpretation of Diocesan funding &#8212; </p>
<p>I know many Catholics who label Bishop Morlino not only outstanding, but also very holy.  </p>
<p>Diminished fund-raising results are due not to the Bishop, but to the economy – for example, in the last 2002 &#8220;recession,&#8221; which was much smaller than this one, tithing to Evangelical Churches was down 62% (<a href="http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/121-tithing-down-62-in-the-past-year" rel="nofollow">http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/121-tithing-down-62-in-the-past-year</a> ).  In the present recession, (September of 2009), numerous religious groups,including Jewish, Lutheran, Evangelical and Baptist, experienced millions of dollars in reduced income which forced them to close seminaries, campuses, and retrench their organizations (<a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/07/local/me-beliefs7" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/07/local/me-beliefs7</a> ). </p>
<p>Compared with these reports, the Diocese of Madison is not doing too badly right now in the midst of a severe recession. </p>
<p>Bishop Morlino’s own Cathedral Parish had a 18% INCREASE in donations last year.  Cathedral Parish members contributed 175% of the amount requested by Bishop Morlino in last year’s  Annual Diocesan Appeal, in the midst of the recession. </p>
<p>This holy man knows what he is doing, and his numerous supporters understand his and their mission.
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		<title>By: MadCath</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadCath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MadCityMan—

You really seem to have a vendetta against the good Bishop!

If the Bishop had $100,000 and it costs $350,000 annually to operate the Multicultural Center ((http://www.madisoncatholicherald.org/news/around-diocese/811-happy-reopening-of-catholic-multicultural-center.html), how could the Bishop keep it open?  Can you pay less than 1/3 of your mortgage and expect to keep living in your house?

If the plight of the Multicultural Center moved the hearts of one particularly rich parish in Madison to reach deeper into their pockets in order to reopen the Center, may God bless them, and you don’t need to search for ways to bad-mouth the Bishop of Madison, who cooperated with, helped them, and gave them $100,000. 

You also seem to have a poor understanding of the mission of the Catholic Church – the mission of the Church, the same as the mission of Christ, is primarily to TEACH the gospel. The charitable efforts are necessary, important, but secondary. 

Just as UW Madison primarily TEACHES students what they should do in life, and does not open food pantries, so also the Church primarily teaches.  Jesus Christ primarily taught, and did not organize His apostles to open soup kitchens to assist the poor as a primary focus.  

The main focus of Christ, His apostles, and the Church, is to TEACH people to love God and one another – so that ALL people, not just Catholics or Christians, would carry out this work -- so, yes, Madison SHOULD love and contribute to Haiti just as much as the Catholic Church does.  

The Catholic Church does NOT exist for the purpose of doing the good deeds that the rest of the world (and Madison) does not feel like doing.  It exists to TEACH and persuade the rest of the world (yes, and to teach and persuade Madison) the love of God and of neighbor, which is the message of the gospel, so that we ALL shoulder the responsibilities toward our fellow humans.  

This teaching is not popular with some, who do not wish to shoulder these responsibilities, and prefer to leave that job to “religious” people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MadCityMan—</p>
<p>You really seem to have a vendetta against the good Bishop!</p>
<p>If the Bishop had $100,000 and it costs $350,000 annually to operate the Multicultural Center ((http://www.madisoncatholicherald.org/news/around-diocese/811-happy-reopening-of-catholic-multicultural-center.html), how could the Bishop keep it open?  Can you pay less than 1/3 of your mortgage and expect to keep living in your house?</p>
<p>If the plight of the Multicultural Center moved the hearts of one particularly rich parish in Madison to reach deeper into their pockets in order to reopen the Center, may God bless them, and you don’t need to search for ways to bad-mouth the Bishop of Madison, who cooperated with, helped them, and gave them $100,000. </p>
<p>You also seem to have a poor understanding of the mission of the Catholic Church – the mission of the Church, the same as the mission of Christ, is primarily to TEACH the gospel. The charitable efforts are necessary, important, but secondary. </p>
<p>Just as UW Madison primarily TEACHES students what they should do in life, and does not open food pantries, so also the Church primarily teaches.  Jesus Christ primarily taught, and did not organize His apostles to open soup kitchens to assist the poor as a primary focus.  </p>
<p>The main focus of Christ, His apostles, and the Church, is to TEACH people to love God and one another – so that ALL people, not just Catholics or Christians, would carry out this work &#8212; so, yes, Madison SHOULD love and contribute to Haiti just as much as the Catholic Church does.  </p>
<p>The Catholic Church does NOT exist for the purpose of doing the good deeds that the rest of the world (and Madison) does not feel like doing.  It exists to TEACH and persuade the rest of the world (yes, and to teach and persuade Madison) the love of God and of neighbor, which is the message of the gospel, so that we ALL shoulder the responsibilities toward our fellow humans.  </p>
<p>This teaching is not popular with some, who do not wish to shoulder these responsibilities, and prefer to leave that job to “religious” people.
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		<title>By: MadCityMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadCityMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Bishop had $100,000 to donate to the Multi-cultural center when it re-opened, then why did he close it in the first place?  Unless I&#039;m wrong, the re-opening was because a Catholic Parish was willing to take on the mission, not because the Bishop saw any need to continue the charitable mission of the church. If anything it looks like the Bishop was blackmailing parishioners since he hadn&#039;t raised the funds he had expected through the Annual Catholic Appeal.  When he quickly closed the Multi-cultural Center, he moved them to take action.  Through the efforts of the Queen of Peace Parish, the Catholic Multi-cultural Center was able to re-open.  http://www.channel3000.com/family/19668547/detail.html

Kudos for the Haiti assistance - it sounds like the people of the Madison-based church were generous, unlike their leaders who willingly closed a mission in their own hometown.  I wouldn&#039;t expect the City of Madison to contribute anything to Haiti, that isn&#039;t their mission unlike the mission of the Catholic Church.  

How do you know what &quot;Christian Charity&quot; any of us practice?  It is hard to believe that you impugn someone without having done your homework.

I know many Catholics who would not give the label &quot;outstanding&quot; to Bishop Morlino.  Your welcome to your opinion, but I suspect the diminished fundraising results are in large part due to protests against his leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Bishop had $100,000 to donate to the Multi-cultural center when it re-opened, then why did he close it in the first place?  Unless I&#8217;m wrong, the re-opening was because a Catholic Parish was willing to take on the mission, not because the Bishop saw any need to continue the charitable mission of the church. If anything it looks like the Bishop was blackmailing parishioners since he hadn&#8217;t raised the funds he had expected through the Annual Catholic Appeal.  When he quickly closed the Multi-cultural Center, he moved them to take action.  Through the efforts of the Queen of Peace Parish, the Catholic Multi-cultural Center was able to re-open.  <a href="http://www.channel3000.com/family/19668547/detail.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.channel3000.com/family/19668547/detail.html</a></p>
<p>Kudos for the Haiti assistance &#8211; it sounds like the people of the Madison-based church were generous, unlike their leaders who willingly closed a mission in their own hometown.  I wouldn&#8217;t expect the City of Madison to contribute anything to Haiti, that isn&#8217;t their mission unlike the mission of the Catholic Church.  </p>
<p>How do you know what &#8220;Christian Charity&#8221; any of us practice?  It is hard to believe that you impugn someone without having done your homework.</p>
<p>I know many Catholics who would not give the label &#8220;outstanding&#8221; to Bishop Morlino.  Your welcome to your opinion, but I suspect the diminished fundraising results are in large part due to protests against his leadership.
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		<title>By: MadCath</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadCath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MadCityMan--

You shouldn&#039;t bad-mouth the Bishop of Madison when he cuts spending in a recession.  He cannot borrow from China or print extra dollars like Obama can.  That is what reasonable people do when their budget shrinks -- they cut spending what they don&#039;t have. 

Incidentally, when the Catholic Multi-Cultural Center was reopened one month after its closing, the Bishop was first in line with a $100,000 donation to the center.  The City of Madison contributed $13,500.  (http://www.madisoncatholicherald.org/news/around-diocese/811-happy-reopening-of-catholic-multicultural-center.html)  

The Diocese of Madison also collected over $500,000. to assist Haitian earthquake victims (http://www.madisondiocese.org/).  How much did Madison contribute?  

Be careful whom you badmouth -- again, the pot should not be calling the kettle black. 

Hard to believe how people who practice little Christian charity can be the first to criticize others for not practicing Christian enough charity!  

God has blessed us with an outstanding Bishop in Madison, and you should do more homework before you accuse him publicly and falsely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MadCityMan&#8211;</p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t bad-mouth the Bishop of Madison when he cuts spending in a recession.  He cannot borrow from China or print extra dollars like Obama can.  That is what reasonable people do when their budget shrinks &#8212; they cut spending what they don&#8217;t have. </p>
<p>Incidentally, when the Catholic Multi-Cultural Center was reopened one month after its closing, the Bishop was first in line with a $100,000 donation to the center.  The City of Madison contributed $13,500.  (<a href="http://www.madisoncatholicherald.org/news/around-diocese/811-happy-reopening-of-catholic-multicultural-center.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.madisoncatholicherald.org/news/around-diocese/811-happy-reopening-of-catholic-multicultural-center.html</a>)  </p>
<p>The Diocese of Madison also collected over $500,000. to assist Haitian earthquake victims (<a href="http://www.madisondiocese.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.madisondiocese.org/</a>).  How much did Madison contribute?  </p>
<p>Be careful whom you badmouth &#8212; again, the pot should not be calling the kettle black. </p>
<p>Hard to believe how people who practice little Christian charity can be the first to criticize others for not practicing Christian enough charity!  </p>
<p>God has blessed us with an outstanding Bishop in Madison, and you should do more homework before you accuse him publicly and falsely.
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		<title>By: forgotmyscreenname</title>
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		<dc:creator>forgotmyscreenname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just think if all the parochial schools were to close and all those kids came knocking on the public school door.  These parents and schools do a service to public school system by relieving them of children they are obligated to educate and therefore do not have to build additional schools, hire more teachers, pay more benefits, more school buses, and on and on.  Many costs are saved for taxpayers.

Meanwhile these parents pay the taxes for public schools they do not use in addition to the tuition for parochial schools.  Most of these parents are not wealthy, but place a value on a Christian education.  And they keep YOUR taxes down too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just think if all the parochial schools were to close and all those kids came knocking on the public school door.  These parents and schools do a service to public school system by relieving them of children they are obligated to educate and therefore do not have to build additional schools, hire more teachers, pay more benefits, more school buses, and on and on.  Many costs are saved for taxpayers.</p>
<p>Meanwhile these parents pay the taxes for public schools they do not use in addition to the tuition for parochial schools.  Most of these parents are not wealthy, but place a value on a Christian education.  And they keep YOUR taxes down too.
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		<title>By: PartiallyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>PartiallyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will defend to the death the right of religious  organizations to set boundaries as they choose for their adherents...even when I disagree with them. I hope all of you feel the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will defend to the death the right of religious  organizations to set boundaries as they choose for their adherents&#8230;even when I disagree with them. I hope all of you feel the same.
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