KO got Ko’d

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I am sure that the right wing echo chamber is giddy with excitement, as Keith Olbermann signed off for the last time tonight. I am sure the extreme right, will misread into it that there is no audience for what Olbermann is saying never once mentioning the incredibly bad for democracy merger between Comcast and NBC. It comes a little too close to the merger to be coincidence.

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  1. Hopefully this is the first step of turning MSNBC back to a news network it once was and not a hatefilled leftwing kook fest that it has been the last few years, Can’t wait to see Matthews get kicked to the curb,

          1. Wow Steven, yesterday it was a funny little game of scrabble and now you are playing English teacher, so typical for your kind. But I understand, little man syndrome comes in many forms and you have a need to do this.

              1. Thank you it all depends on what I am using, when driving and using my smartphone I don’t care about spelling or punctuation, traffic is distracting so I need to focus on that. If its the laptop or netbook depending on where I am I may or may not, if I am using my desktop I pay a little more attention but again not all that important. But I am glad I can bring a little entertainment to your hollow life.

                GO PACK GO!

                1. Thank you it all depends on what I am using, when driving and using my smartphone I don’t care about spelling or punctuation, traffic is distracting so I need to focus on that. If its the laptop or netbook depending on where I am I may or may not, if I am using my desktop I pay a little more attention but again not all that important. But I am glad I can bring a little entertainment to your hollow life.

                  GO PACK GO!

                  Thank you it all depends on what I am using, when driving and using my smartphone I don’t care about spelling or punctuation, traffic is distracting so I need to focus on that.

                  when driving and using my smartphone I don’t care about spelling or punctuation, traffic is distracting so I need to focus on that

                  Iiiii don’t think the traffic is the thing that is distracting. Just saying.

  2. Don’t care either way since I never watched in the first place. It is true that hardly anyone watched (from what I heard, ratings were abysmal), but I wouldn’t read into any merger conspiracy. If it was making money, it would stay, unless he left for creative or personal reasons.

    1. Actually his ratings were one of the best MSNBC had, and considering MSNBC continues to have a growing audience I’m not sure where that factor comes in.

      If you mean by conservatives though – they probably were abyssal. I do remember you live in Southeastern Wisconsin, so I can imagine, in your part of the state nobody would watch him. On the national scale however, he had quite a following.

      Most people watched him and Rachel Maddow together were a pretty good team in my opinion. Keith Olbermann despite my issues against him with going a little too far, he was angry and called people out on their shit. And when the conservatives can have hundreds of foaming mouth talk radio/news caster personalities, this was about the only one the liberals had.

      ( Though to be fair, O’Reilly has shifted into the Rachel Maddow of the right, and say what you want about Keith Olbermann, but Rachel Maddow is civil, lets you speak, and disagrees with you when people of conflicting opinions are on her show. )

      1. To be honest, I don’t watch any of them for numerous reasons. To be fair, it’s been a while since I have looked at the ratings. I’m no TV exec, so I don’t want constitutes a “good” rating, but I have been shocked at how low some of those “major personalities” shows get (I’m looking at you Larry King.) So I looked it up, and Keith’s were higher than they used to be or I remembed them being (I would have said around 700,000). But here’s the latest I found:

        CABLE NEWS RACE
        THURS. JAN. 20, 2011

        FOXNEWS O’REILLY 2,918,000
        FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,079,000
        FOXNEWS BAIER 1,940,000
        FOXNEWS SHEP 1,786,000
        FOXNEWS BECK 1,780,000
        FOXNEWS GRETA 1,460,000
        MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,106,000
        CNN PIERS 1,025,000
        MSNBC MADDOW 976,000
        MSNBC O’DONNELL 855,000
        MSNBC SCHULTZ 760,000
        CNN COOPER 740,000
        MSNBC HARDBALL 700,000

        1. I was last reading it was because Fox News Network has been falling in ratings and viewership, The highest is O’Reily while the rest of them are starting to fall – partially because O’Reilly is becoming the sane voice of the moderate and reasonable conservatives.

          This is not saying they’re all moving to CNN or MSNBC, but rather they’re going online to find their information – for example looking online on something they hear, fact checking if it’s true or not or something along those lines. Or they for bile fascination are looking at opposite views to see if they can understand the logic behind it.

          The problem with Larry King is that I think he’s not like he used to be and not bringing in big people anymore. Not insulting his work in the past, but I think CNN needs another big name to attract viewership which they sadly they haven’t been able to find outside of Piers or Cooper.

        1. Not exactly since Fox has been the highest rated Cable News Network for years, and it’s numbers have in fact dwindled down while as forgotmyscreenanme has said above, CNN and MSNBC’s ratings were higher than they expected. Either it means people who were watching Fox News went to those channels or they just quit watching all Cable News Networks all together.

          That or it’s main viewership is dying off, but that’s a bit morbid to think about that possibility and I don’t think that many people are dying.

          To me it might be showing as a whole that the News Channels completely are not being trusted anymore, considering most of the propaganda and now they’re fact checking on their own. ( Note: The Sports seems fine with Fox oddly enough, it’s just seems the news source sector is dropping with people either moving to CNN or MSNBC or dropping the channels all together. )

          I think it’s also important that all basic cable packages come with Fox News and CNN (sometimes). MSNBC and CNN (sometimes) is on the bigger package. I say sometimes CNN depends for some reason depending on the region.

          More or less the comparison is between apples and oranges. As a social experiment, I would love to see Fox News actually put on more expensive cable packages.

          However I tend to avoid cable news like the plague even if it was what brought me to an interest in politics in the first place. I would prefer to read over have someone tell me something on television, on the principle that there is only so much a news cast can tell you where as reading you could get more of an idea.

  3. “He didn’t know what he was headed for …and when I found what he was headed for …It was too late …He’s come undun …He found a mountain that was far too high …And when he found out he couldn’t fly …Mama, it was too late …he’s gone too far …he’s lost the sun …he’s come undun”

    Slight change of The Who song to fit KO. His election night ranting just lost all sense of reason. It became too personal for Keith and he suffers for it now. He needed this change to reset himself.

    However, don’t count him out. He will be picked up by others and back soon. I’d like to hear him on XM radio regularly.

  4. I’ve long been of the belief that Keith Olbermann was far from being the best of MSNBC’s three nightly commentators.

  5. PP, you seem to indicate that KO was pushed out. The latest news is that he wanted more money. If that is the case, will you put him in the same category as the greedy CEOs you love to hate?

    1. Silly, forgot. Didn’t you know that wealthy conservatives are greedy, but wealthy liberals are successful?

  6. Just take a look at the difference between conservative media and liberal. The liberals had Air America which failed from no listeners and no advertisers. NPR stays afloat only because tax payers subsidize it, if it had to stand on its own it would end up just like Air America. Go up and down the AM dial and even the FM dial, you will find local, state and national conservative talk shows all over the dial and more added daily. When you compare the leftwing MSNBC to conservative FOX the 25-54 Demographics are amazing. The Best MSNBC has was Overblown with a 248 rating while lowest Fox had in the evening was 356. When you looked at the overall in the evening FOX leads 587 to 223 to MSNBC. It is no surprise that Comcast has made this move and will probably at the very least move MSNBC back to the middle. I expect more far left demigods like Schultz and Mathews will also be gone. Maddow while a strong leftwinger she is not over the top of a hater like the previous two. The left has a message that they have a hard time getting out, not because of lack of trying but more for what that message is, America just is not interetsed.

  7. Just take a look at the difference between conservative media and liberal. The liberals had Air America which failed from no listeners and no advertisers. NPR stays afloat only because tax payers subsidize it, if it had to stand on its own it would end up just like Air America. Go up and down the AM dial and even the FM dial, you will find local, state and national conservative talk shows all over the dial and more added daily. When you compare the leftwing MSNBC to conservative FOX the 25-54 Demographics are amazing. The Best MSNBC has was Overblown with a 248 rating while lowest Fox had in the evening was 356. When you looked at the overall in the evening FOX leads 587 to 223 to MSNBC. It is no surprise that Comcast has made this move and will probably at the very least move MSNBC back to the middle. I expect more far left demigods like Schultz and Mathews will also be gone. Maddow while a strong leftwinger she is not over the top of a hater like the previous two. The left has a message that they have a hard time getting out, not because of lack of trying but more for what that message is, America just is not interetsed.

    1. Or it could be because they’re rich that they’re able to buy these large amounts of airwaves. I’m not insulting rich people mind you, I’m just saying what is obvious. AM radio stations are expensive compared to FM radio stations, that is why FM radio stations are often with more liberal leaning stations compared to say AM radio.

      That being said, I think an important factor people are not considering is Podcasts, which are growing in numbers.

      But you cannot say the argument that there are more conservatives than liberals or moderates in this US. I say the largest groups are the moderates, which is why they’re frustrated and swinging from left to right not having a clue what to do other than the fact that they constantly attack each other.

      That and many are underestimating the youth that continue to gain more numbers too as they reach the age of eighteen and grow frustrated with the broken system. They’re often not counted in polls because a lot of them don’t have landlines but instead cellphones as a means of communication, I barely know anyone with a land line these days that are under 30 years old. ( Given I’m still not at that age yet, but it’s interesting to think of how technology is making leaps, isn’t it? )

      1. They’re often not counted in polls, because they don’t vote in large numbers. Before the 2010 elections, some of the left kept saying the polls were off because of the youth/landline issue, but as we can see, there was not a great abberation between the polls and the results.

        1. It’s also important to note that a lot of the youth had their first time voting for Obama expecting immediate change but were disillusioned because there wasn’t immediate change. Just look at John Stewart’s show and how they seemed to act on the Daily Show when Obama was on it.

          Most people don’t exercise their right to vote constantly, believing the only time it’s important is when the president is in charge because they have the misconception that the president holds all the cards when that’s not necessarily the case.

          Honestly, I find the similarities between John Stewart and Glenn Beck fascinating, because they both try to hide behind the I am only a comedian/entertainer line, except it seems for John Stewart he’s trying to say it in a way to convince himself that he is a comedian and not a news source but he is beginning to realize it’s no longer the case, while with Glenn Beck it seems to dodge every accusation at him but takes himself seriously as a reliable source.

  8. “I am sure the extreme right, will misread into it that there is no audience for what Olbermann is saying…”

    Why do they even need to say anything…? You’re saying it for them.

    1. I was trying to head off the usual predictable responses of – the country is far right, no one listens to progressive talk, blah blah blah…. Yet our right wing friends on this site brought them in anyway. Even though they know it isnt true, it makes a good talking point.

  9. While you may call it far right most of America sees what is being said by conservatives as the direction they want to see the country go. To say that Obamas far left agenda has been a failure is an understatement, that is why we are seeing him pretender to move to the center a little more he needs the independent voters back who thought we was more a centrist than a far left ideologue that he has proven to be. I don’t think he will fool that voter segment again come 2012

    1. NOTA, your talking points from the echo chamber are tiring.

      “To say that Obamas far left agenda has been a failure is an understatement” – To say that he has a far left agenda is just blatantly untrue

    2. See sometimes you have a point, but your conservative movement has proved nothing to be nothing but a ridiculous failure under the Bush Administration and we are beginning to see them in action now. Bring on the conservative movement and bring on 2012.

      But hey, I know exactly how you people solve those things. It’s a wonderful way for a medical system to keep costs down and works much better than what those evil liberals have planned. Let’s keep denying coverage and letting those people die. It worked for so long, of course it works fine now!

      At least you’re getting rid of the useless lot, right? 🙂

      1. No one ever dies under government health care…

        until the money runs out. Or should I say, when you run out of other peoples’ money.

        1. … Buuuuut there is no government public healthcare in the United States of America. I’m not going to say nobody will die under government healthcare, because eventually everyone dies and there’s sometimes noting you can do.

          However healthcare facilities in the United States of America are largely owned and operated by the private sector. Health insurance is primarily provided by the private sector, with the exception of programs of Medicare, Medicaid, TRICARE, the Children’s Health Insurance Program, and the Veterans Health Administration.

          Considering our money ran out in the Bush Administration and it is beginning to pay itself up now …?

          Ultimately however I want to know this — what comes after your conservative party’s giant “No”? Where are your ideas?

  10. The loss of Keith is a big loss for the progressive voice and truth. The meaness of the right is very disturbing and I wonder what would make them happy? I really don’t think that they would be happy if everyone was a conservative. They would find someone or something to hate and want to shoot.

    1. What meanness? Are you saying Keith never uttered any mean words about the right? And so what if he did, that was his job. I’m sure you have only kind words for Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and talkers on the right? Pardon me for not caring if Keith’s “voice and truth” (laughable) no longer shine on the airwaves. I don’t care if he’s there or not.

    2. I think liberals need to grow a spine with crying about supposed “meanness.” Conservatives have mean, nasty, hateful, belittling comments said about them every day. You learn to deal with it.

      But someone says Keith blowhard Olbermann isn’t their cup of tea, and it’s suddenly labeled “disturbing meanness.”

      1. Well in that case, I think that the conservatives should throw stones from glass houses. They’re the ones I usually hear crying and sobbing on the national level.

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