Paul Ryan: that guy’s nuts!

Watch as one of Rep. Paul Ryan’s elderly constituents shares how she feels about Rep. Ryan and his plan to replace Medicare with a voucher system:


I’m betting there’s plenty more senior citizens – both in Rep. Ryan’s district and across the nation – who’d agree that his plan to replace Medicare with a voucher system is just plain nuts.

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22 thoughts on “Paul Ryan: that guy’s nuts!

  1. I just love how the DNC in this state will stage events and then try to pass them off as factual.That one was even more pathetic then the one they did with those “unemployed” union workers in Milwaukee.

    Sad really sad how desperate progressives have become.

  2. Paul Ryan reportedly makes his staff read ” Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand. She’s his heroine. Ryan’s real big on personal responsibility; takes care of himself, watches what he eats, works out, etc.

    Does he know that Rand was a two pack a day smoker and when she was diagnosed with lung cancer at age 69 decided to accept her Medicare and Social Security benefits?

    http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/149721/ayn_rand_railed_against_governmen
    benefits%2C_but_grabbed_social_security_and_medicare_when_she_needed_them/

    Atlas Reconsiders?

    1. I’ve read many of her books and can see the appeal to them if you look from the world half empty perspective, but anyone who argues for such purity has their own issues. I also read that she took some medication back in her youth that may have had some bad side effects, which may have lead to some of her odd nature. Not to mention many of her demands for purity and solidarity within her own circle show that she fled Stalin’s Russia, but not all of it. I remember one person in the circle was kicked out for falling asleep on the couch too often while she spoke.

      I am surprised she compromised as she so excoriated compromise, but deliberate hypocrisy is part of being human.

      However one thing I sincerely believe is she would take most of the Tea Partiers and beat them soundly. She would have excoriated their religious fundamentalism and their lack of any real plan. She only was involved in politics in the 1940 Presidential election where she campaigned for Wendell Wilkie, a liberal Republican and sacrificial lamb to throw at Franklin I.

      I’ll say this for Rand, she was a fair bit more intelligent than the people waving her books around nowadays.

  3. Wow, big deal. You found one old lady who said Paul Ryan’s ideas are nuts. I’m sure it would be impossible to find anyone to say the same of Obama’s plans for the country. Please!

    1. Yeah, except if this was someone who saying Obama was nuts you would say it’s for the whole country.

      By the way, you never got back to us on that talk about Michelle Bachmann and how she was right about our forefathers working to stop slavery despite the Three-fifths compromise.

      Now if there were time traveling founding father abolitionists cracking down and going against slavery destroying communism that would be an interesting comic to read.

      1. “Yeah, except if this was someone who saying Obama was nuts you would say it’s for the whole country.”

        Oh, you mean EXACTLY what Zach is saying here?

        Zach wrote: “I’m betting there’s plenty more senior citizens – both in Rep. Ryan’s district and across the nation – who’d agree that his plan to replace Medicare with a voucher system is just plain nuts.”

        Sounds like he’s the one saying it’s for the whole country.

        1. Sounds like you’re inferring or assuming. I simply wrote that I believe there’s a lot of folks who would agree with what this woman articulated, but I don’t recall writing that the whole country feels the same way.

          However, do you mean to tell me you don’t believe there’s plenty of veterans both in Ryan’s district and across the nation who’d agree that his plan to replace Medicare with vouchers is nuts?

          1. My point was directed at T. He accused me saying that I would extrapolate one comment if it were Obama. You extrapolated in the same way about Ryan to “plenty more… across the nation.” If that’s not the same thing, then you and T. are splitting hairs.

          2. DO you have a study of some sort that would back up your claim or is this more just a personal opinion.If you have the facts to back up your charges I can see where you could portray yourself as their spokesman but without those facts should you not just be expressing YOUR opinion and not spraying for people.

            1. Of course I don’t have a study to back up my claim, beyond the fact that every senior I’ve talked to says Rep. Ryan’s plan is the height of stupidity.

              While it sounds great to talk about giving folks receiving Medicare vouchers to go buy their own health insurance coverage, there’s plenty of folks covered by Medicare who are virtually un-insurable due to their medical issues. How exactly does a voucher help those folks?

              1. Zach said, “that every senior I’ve talked to “. Exactly how many have you spoken too and how many of them were in his district and how many were from other parts of the country that allowed you to make that statement, “plenty of veterans both in Ryan’s district and across the nation”

                1. Maybe he lives in a blue collar district with lower working class people who retired only now they can’t keep up with the cost of living and now they can’t get back to work.

                  I know it’s hard to for conservatives to comprehend that people are working hard out there and actually can’t meet ends but it’s a sad fact of life.

                  1. Since conservatives are the heart of the blue collar work force we understand completely how challenging it is to make ends meet when we are trying to provide the best life that we can for our families and still have to fund all of the entitlement programs that progressives have put in place to fuel their lifestyles out of that same paycheck, and the sad part is the government steals their money first and then we are forced to survive off of what they leave us..

                    1. Conservatives only use the heart of the workforce. They say nice things, they promise, they things will get better — then they leave you out in the gutter once they’re in power and benefit from those votes. They promise you that jobs are being made when they aren’t, they use funny wording to claim it is happening when it really isn’t.

                      The blue collar worker may vote for conservatives, but the conservatives in power and getting to power could give less of a damn about them. Conservatives in office generally work more for higher society and monopolies than their people – I can only count a few that actually represent their areas. For example: Ron Paul who has continuously worked for his people’s rights. Paul Ryan isn’t one of them and that’s why he’s extremely unpopular – but a reason why he’s not out of power is because the other choices he had to go against were not exactly inspirational or qualified.

                      tl;dr: Just because the blue collar workforce and the elderly are two important wheels to the conservative movement, doesn’t mean they matter to the people hitching a ride. It’s like how some democrats use minorities and gays to get to power then drop kick them at the next chance.

        2. “I’m betting there’s plenty more senior citizens – both in Rep. Ryan’s district and across the nation – who’d agree that his plan to replace Medicare with a voucher system is just plain nuts.”

          He didn’t say all. He said there was plenty more.

  4. Well I will say it, Obama is nuts, he is horrible for this country and all of the people who voted for him should be ashamed for the destruction of America that this incompetent fool has brought.

    Oh and just to head off the typical leftwingnut response, no this is not a racist statement but the truth so save your little progressive talking points for someone else.

      1. Definitely a topic worthy of it’s own discussion thread (though to be honest, while interesting, I don’t see the relevance to either the post you replied to or the thread as a whole).

        Even now, no one really knows why.

        I know why. To some extent it was outsourcing – to contract employees and firms both locally and abroad. My guess is you’re personally benefiting from this – as am I. The work I do for companies was once done by regular, full time employees. I know, because I was one of them. My job got eliminated & was replaced by contractors. I actually do a lot of work for the same company with the same people I used to. But they don’t pay for a desk, computer and more importantly, a continual salary and benefits. I can’t blame the company – the difference is now they have a faucet they can turn on & off rather than always running. I get the benefit of a much more flexible schedule, a higher hourly rate and the freedom of no longer being a cog in the corporate wheel. I love it.

        Also a very large percentage of manufacturing jobs lost are a result of the technology improvements. The automation and robotics that were predicted decades ago finally became reality. As the costs of labor went up – especially driven by rising health costs, but also rising insurance costs and OSHA and other regulations, and businesses got better at financial analysis and looking further down the road, capital expenditures that reduced the number of workers became relatively more affordable.

        1. I actually put it down here in hopes someone could actually pick it up and bring it to light, because it’s an extremely interesting article and topic to bring up.

          You’ve hit the nail on the head though.

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