10 thoughts on “Mark Ruffalo actually trusts the women he knows

    1. Look, you can cite Filner and Anthony Weiner, and I can produce a nice long list of Republicans who done or said incredibly sexist things.

      My statement was, “Trusting the women you know to make decisions for themselves” sounds like a concept many conservative men can’t grasp. Notice I wrote many, not all.

      1. I noticed. And there’s no doubt that both parties have done/said sexist things.

        But I’m not sure where “trust” comes in to play with regard to abortion? “Many” conservatives oppose abortion due to spiritual beliefs. Can’t say I’ve ever met one who said, “I’m cool with the killing part…but sadly I just don’t trust the woman.”

        Have you met folks like that?
        And what about pro-life women? How does “trust” factor in to their positions?

        1. Ben, why don’t you anti-choice folks demand a homicide investigation after every miscarriage?

        2. Ben,

          One way trust comes into play with abortion is this:

          We are a society of individuals each with our own spiritual beliefs which guide our individual actions. We are not a society of individuals committed to a single set of beliefs which guide the actions of all women.

          Anti-choice expresses repudiation of the secular morality imbued in our founding ideals. Those ideals are thoroughly grounded in the value of trust. A fundamental aspect in that concept of trust is trusting individuals with their own spiritual beliefs.

          By codifying a single set of beliefs into the legal code, you legally deny women their own God.

          Disallowing women to make their own choice on abortion reveals you don’t trust women to choose God for themselves. Women may not choose your God if you entrust them with choice.

          When you deny women the right to their own choices in concert with their own God, you’ve revealed a fundamental insecurity in your own faith.

          More to the point, however, by not trusting women to choose their own God, you expose your own deep distrust of God.

          You are quite right when you note that Conservatives oppose abortion due to spiritual beliefs. Conservatives oppose abortion due to spiritual beliefs, but without faith.

          The Conservative position on abortion is unfaithful and ungodly. Really, it’s an abomination because of its denial of faith and trust in God, and as crucial – the craven absence of love of God.

          At it’s heart, Anti-Choice is Anti-God.

          Pro-Life Women are Pro-Choice Women because they do trust the life of God. Pro-Choice women trust the authority of individual conscience, which of course, is solely the realm of God.

          I absolutely agree with you. Conservatives oppose abortion due to spiritual beliefs – beliefs that seek an authoritarian position over all women, thereby displacing the authority of God.

          Usurping the authority of God is well manifested in the Conservative War Against Women – abortion being one key flashpoint in that battle.

          The real difference between men on the Left and men on the Right is to whom each grants authority. Men on the Left grant authority to God. Men on the Right covet God’s authority for themselves.

  1. Of course I’m teasing you, Zach. 🙂

    While I find the “only WE trust women” argument to be tongue-in-cheek…I’m not looking to rate cross gender support.

    Women can’t agree on what’s best for women. So I “trust” that I don’t have solutions.

  2. PJ writes: Anti-choice expresses repudiation of the secular morality imbued in our founding ideals.

    Exactly wrong PJ. Ever heard of the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Kind of hard to enjoy life etc… when your crushed skull is unceremoniously dumped in the biohazard bag. But keep on believing that you are doing God’s work.

    1. If the anti-choice crowd is so passionate about protecting life, why aren’t you?

      The best birth control is education and jobs.

      Why the defunding of age-appropriate sex-ed programs?

      Why resisting all forms of contraception?

      With fetuses you consider viable, why not raise it in a neo-natal unit until adoptive parents can be found?

    2. Denis,

      Anti-Choice most certainly does repudiate the secular morality of freedom of conscience and the right to believe as one chooses. You are not the arbiter of any woman’s conscience and God. You are free to believe abortion is wrong. When you impose that belief on all women by codifying it into the legal code you are violating the founding principle that all individuals are free to think for themselves and commune with God on their own terms. Moreover, you should take your own advice. You should stop believing you are doing God’s work by positioning yourself as master over all women. God didn’t choose you to be the crucible of life. God chose women to be his vessel. For you to treat women as only that – as a vessel – and to choose for her rather than allowing God to guide her choice you usurp God’s authority. You do not have the authority to choose what women believe and how women respond to their own individual beliefs with respect to their own individual bodies. When you do you assume God’s authority for yourself – you become an abomination and an immoral usurper. God did not choose you as an intercessor between God and women. When you don’t trust women to choose as they see fit in concert with their own God, then ultimately you don’t trust God.

      Anti-Choice is the UnGodly Misogyny of the Unfaithful.

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