2013 Elections and Beyond

On Tuesday night, Chris Christie won a second term as New Jersey Governor by about 20 points over his Democratic challenger, just as most pundits predicted.  Many attribute this blow-out victory to the fact that he is perceived as a moderate Republican who can get things done.  The fact of the matter is that Christie has vetoed an increase in the minimum wage (which the people of New Jersey overruled by referendum, with over 60% of the vote), he is anti-choice, anti-equality, anti-teacher, and comes across as a thin-skinned blow-hard.

To give credit where credit is due, Christie stepped up to bat when Superstorm Sandy hit the east coast in 2012.  He joined forces with President Obama, putting politics aside (at least on the surface) in order to help a state that was devastated by one of the worst storms in recent history.  Nobody on either side of the aisle has forgotten the pictures of Christie putting his arm around President Obama.  Coincidentally, this took place around the time when the Democratic party basically pulled out of the New Jersey Governors race.  Perhaps there was a gentlemen’s agreement between the President and Christie: “You stay out of my race and I’ll stay out of yours.”

These circumstances allowed Christie to win a big victory, but does it really help for 2016?  Because the Democrats ran a weak campaign against him, Christie was not vetted properly.  A new book tells the story of how Mitt Romney didn’t pick Christie as a running mate because “Christie’s past is littered with landmines.”  Did it make more sense for the Dems to stay out of this race so that they can vet him in front of the nation when he runs for president?  Even a strong Democrat with support from the national party most likely would have come up short against Christie.  Not because Jersey is trending red (the opposite is actually true), but because the people of New Jersey genuinely seem to believe that Christie deserved a second term.

Or did they?

Crooksandliars.com ran an article stating the following:

“With 99 percent of the voting precincts counted, 2,073,642 voters cast ballots for governor, according to the Associated Press. That’s a shade less than 38 percent of the state’s registered voters.

The voter totals will go up because they don’t include provisional ballots yet to be counted, as well as those who may have voted for other offices but not governor. The record low for a governor’s race is 47 percent, set four years ago.

The special U.S. Senate election held three weeks ago set the record for lowest turnout of any Jersey state level-contest: 24.5 percent.”

So, Christie won with over 60% of the vote, but that still doesn’t represent the majority of New Jersey voters.  2013 is a way-off-year-election.  It isn’t a presidential year, it isn’t even a mid-term year.  These types of oddly-timed election cycles tend to favor Republicans.  But this year, Christie was the only bright spot for the GOP, considering that they suffered a historic loss in Virginia where Terry McAuliffe ousted Ken Cuccinelli by a squeaker.  This race was expected to be a blowout for the Clinton-Democrat Terry McAuliffe, but due to a voter purge by the GOP, he barely squeaked out a 2.5 point victory.  The LT, Gov race was not nearly as close.  Democrat Ralph Northam defeated tea party darling E.W. Jackson by about 11 points. In a third match-up for Attorney General,  both candidates won 49.89%, with the Democrat Mark Herring edging out Mark Obenshain by just 32 votes with 95% reporting.  This race is headed for a recount, where the Democrats have a shot at a clean-sweep in Virginia.

But was Christie really a bright spot?  Yes, he won big, but he is perceived as a moderate who belittles Washington and is willing to work across the aisle.  Bi-partisanship is everything the GOP stands against.  What does it say about the 2014 (and 2016) chances for the right wing extremists that still make up 95% of the GOP?

Christie stood alone in a crowd on Tuesday.  Sure, he had supporters, but deep down he knows that his base is not there and a national election will expose him for his true principles.  The true lefties will not support him.  The Tea Party doesn’t trust him due to the pictures of him hugging Barack Obama.  He is currently losing to Hillary Clinton by anywhere from 4-8 points in his own state, and we now know that Romney didn’t pick him because “his past is littered with landmines.”  When those things come out, along with his hard right-wing agenda, his approval will drop.  His right-wing agenda will cancel out his “moderate appeal” to centrists and moderate Democrats, however, the Tea Party voters hate Obama more than they love to hate homosexuals.  As a result, the right-wing base is most likely gone forever from Chris Christie’s side.  They say elections are won in the middle, but that only works when you bring one side or the other along as well.

Hear our full thoughts on Civil Discourse, right here:

http://civildiscourse.podomatic.com/entry/2013-11-10T09_55_13-08_00

15 comments to 2013 Elections and Beyond

  • AJ

    Ken Cuccinelli won the 18-24 age group in Virginia. I wonder if this is a fluke or a trend.

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  • Cat Kin

    On Meet The Press Sunday, Christie sited his hard work for the people of New Jersey, visiting and listening to minorities and the disadvantage (“you just have to go there and listen”) as the reason he got reelected. But when asked about cooperation on Obamacare, Christie towed the main Republican attack Obama line: “Obamacare is a failed program.” And while accepting Federal aid for Sandy, he refused to set up state health exchanges, a typical hard right Republican Governor’s line against implementing The Affordable Health Care law. If he’s not looking to run for President, he’s looking for John Boehner’s position.

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  • AJ

    Cat Kin, Obamacare does suck, we should have done Medicare for All, but I am worrying more at the state level than the federal leval at the moment.

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    • Cat Kin

      Cat Kin, Obamacare does suck, we should have done Medicare for All, but I am worrying more at the state level than the federal leval at the moment.

      AJ, this is why Republicans continue to win elections. Dems like you believe their crap. Deval Patrick, Gov. of Mass., where Romneycare aka Obamacare has been implemented for years now, says it’s working wonderfully. Costs have gone down, bankruptcies have gone down, with more people having much more dependable coverage.
      http://www.nbcnews.com/video/meet-the-press/53449144/#53449144

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      • AJ

        The Obamacare website not working is inexcusable in my opinion. Most of the congressional staff do not even know how to sign up constituents who go to them because it is confusing. The way the subsidies are given/who is eligible for them is confusing to people. Why is the State of Minnesota, with a state based exchange, getting far superior rates for people compared to the states that use the Federal Market place such as Wisconsin? Obamacare is better than what we had before, but the implementation of Obamacare has sucked!

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        • Cat Kin

          Why is the State of Minnesota, with a state based exchange, getting far superior rates for people compared to the states that use the Federal Market place such as Wisconsin?

          AJ, When the State governments are behind the regulation of the program, the insurance companies have to compete fairly and not dupe current policy holders who now hold useless, illegal policies like they’re doing in states like Wisconsin.

          Insurance companies are cancelling these illegal policies and tell clients they have to buy a much more expensive policy–though they don’t. If the state had set up an exchange program, these people could easily go to an insurance company where an agent would advise them on a policy that would offer secure, inclusive coverage, not cancellable, and show them, based on their income, the tax credits they’d receive that would lower their yearly cost.

          It’s a little work, especially in red states, but that’s how the Republicans get their leverage with all the public apathy suckers in damning it.

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      • nonquixote

        Check the link and click on Comcast.

        http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart

        They told me on the news, oh well I guess I’ll have to take their word on how good ObombaDon’tCare is going to be for refusing to provide health care every chance they will get to do so.

        Corporate owned news promoting the start of one of the largest recent wealth transfers to their kind, ever. Who’d of thunk it, Cat? Dems (as you call them) get beat because their leadership proffers policy and spending that protects and furthers the ONE Percent.

        http://sreaves32.wordpress.com/2013/10/02/obamacare-is-another-private-sector-rip-off-of-americans/

        http://www.correntewire.com/obamacare_clusterfuck_chicago_tribune_unsigned_editorial_makes_awesome_points

        And in an article today, Veterans Day, Oilbomber fails to act to help with potential PTS related care for Veterans, through failing to take action. Wondering still why your Dems have so little credibility?

        http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2013/11/11/veterans-day-reminder-the-administration-is-preventing-promising-research-into-ptsd-treatment/

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        • Cat Kin

          Windmill, have to agree with PJ on your turning the discussion. You dismissed my comment with a blanket disregard of all network news especially, it seems, Democrats in the news. Then you attack with your supposed failures in President Obama’s administration. If you don’t believe Gov. Patrick, show me why. All that other wind means nothing, it’s like shooting the host of a banquet because one of the servants didn’t put out a salad fork.

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          • AJ

            I am not dismissing what Gov. Patrick said, in fact I am a supporter of Obamacare, but the implementation is terrible and inexcusable! When I see people that are civic oriented not figuring out the jungle of the Obamacare system, I can only imagine the average citizen is having a higher degree of difficultly signing up. Sure Fox news is showing the difficulties of Obamacare every day, but I talk to my friends, neighbors, co-workers who have shared their experiences with Obamacare.

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            • Cat Kin

              AJ, People don’t have to go to the website to get their information. If your local democratic party is doing its job, they have a list of the Insurance companies and agents that are certified to discuss the Affordable Care Act with the public. By providing names and numbers of these agents, who can’t charge extra for their service, to their communities people don’t have to struggle with the website.

              I frankly can’t understand why the ACA Insurance Companies are not doing this themselves–unless they are afraid of offending those insurance companies who are cancelling policies, now illegal, and telling those duped clients that because of ACA they have to buy a policy that’s 3 to 5 times more expensive.

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          • nonquixote

            LitterBox,
            You quoted a presentation on network news, I cited an article and a blog that explains their self-serving motivations, implying they are not always a credible source for commentary. I cited Moyers and Company yesterday, Monday, (different thread) also on the same topic of network news, politics and revenue streams. I turned nothing about the discussion. I did throw in a kicker on sorryO’s concern for veterans, to illustrate his psychopathic tendancies, yet again displayed publicly which reinforces the title, ObombaDon’tCare. You’re description of my, “arguing,” as, “attacks,” is soooo, verrryy Tea-party a tactic. You’ve either missed the discussion of the t-party playbook, or you have a copy of it.

            You made a claim about ObombaDon’tCare, and attacked a commenter, AJ, as being the reason D’s lose elections, i.e. for his not being intelligent enough to decide about the state of a Democratic pushed policy to have a personal opinion about it. I used articles written by other learned individuals who explained what is wrong with ObomberDon’tCare, read the links. I trust the reading I’ve done on the subject more than the network news, this is not just my opinion on the clusterfuck that the program is, it is widely held by knowledgeable people.

            More info from others criticizing ODC. Oh, and from a site you’ll likely attack as being responsible for the Dems losing future elections.

            http://www.bluecheddar.net/?p=36287

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            • LitterBox?

              Windmill?

              Really?

              Can we just stop already? Why should I need to continuously serve as “hall monitor?”

              You’re adults; act like it. Name calling adds nothing to the discussion, and I’m tired of it.

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              • nonquixote

                Thanks for noticing my one deliberate attention getter and saying something, Zach.

                Sorry for the near identical post on the subject at 7:43pm below, I thought my 3:54 am would likely have been pulled from the list as I had deliberately misspelled my email addy on that one.

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              • Cat Kin

                LitterBox?

                Windmill?

                Really?

                Can we just stop already? Why should I need to continuously serve as “hall monitor?”

                You’re adults; act like it. Name calling adds nothing to the discussion, and I’m tired of it.

                Then why not stay out of it?

                In defending the veracity and Hope of our platform, I squeezed a few more nom de cutes out of our Windmill and made no reply. None needed.

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          • nonquixote

            I turned absolutely nothing about the discussion. I followed your lead, your link to a presentation on network news. I cited an article and a blog that explains their self-serving motivations, implying they are not always a credible source for commentary and they invite guests with a certain POV. I did throw in a kicker on sorryO’s non-concern for veterans to again illustrate his psychopathic tendancies, which through his inaction, reinforces the title, ObombaDon’tCare.

            How does my argument automatically become an attack and your, “Dems like you…” accusations of AJ, saying he is incapable of forming an opinion on the subject, are not? Pretty much dissing his intellect there, you owe him an apology.

            You made a claim about ObombaDon’tCare, I used articles written by other learned individuals, not my claims, to explain clearly what is wrong with ObomberDon’tCare, read the links. I trust the reading I’ve done on the subject more than the network news, this is not just my opinion, it is widely held by knowledgeable people.

            More info from others criticizing ODC. Oh, and from a site you’ll likely attack as being responsible for the Dems losing future elections.

            http://www.bluecheddar.net/?p=36287

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