There’s a special place in hell reserved for Rush Limbaugh

Listen as Rush Limbaugh congratulates himself for predicting in March that the health care bill wouldn’t be passed before Sen. Ted Kennedy’s death:

Yeah, I hope Rush likes warm weather, because it’s really hot where he’s headed.

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29 thoughts on “There’s a special place in hell reserved for Rush Limbaugh

      1. He didn’t shoplift bubblegum Zach, he killed a woman and got away with it simple because of who he is. If he would’ve come clean maybe the public would have seen him in a different light.

      2. How about the fact that apparently he liked to joke about it? On an NPR show, during an interview with friend & biographer Ed Klein says,

        “one of his favorite topics of humor was indeed Chappaquiddick itself. And he would ask people, “have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick?”

        He tells this story, seemingly thinking it puts Kennedy in a good light, that he was able to joke about it. He also prefaced it with, “I don’t know if you know this or not” like it was almost common knowledge, at least among those close to him.

        Sorry but that’s just disgusting and slaps down hard, the whole “get over it, it was a past mistake when he was just a kid” stuff.

        http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/28/one-of-his-favorite-topics-of-humor-was-indeed-chappaquiddick-itself/

  1. Apparently you didn’t listen to the audio….
    What I heard was Rush predicting the left would use Ted’s passing as a vehicle to press lawmakers to pass health care reform in his name. You know… The “Do it for Teddy” cries to try to guilt them into passing something.
    It sounds to me like he was right.
    Shame on the left exploiting Teddy’s in the name of health care reform….

    1. The should read……Shame on the left for exploiting Teddy’s death in the name of health care reform….
      Fingers not working this morning.

  2. That was added to simply make a point. If they want to honor Ted then fine but Zach’s post and title were as disingenuous as that statement.

  3. Zach, you say doing radio commentary earns him a place “where it’s really hot”, what do you think about driving a car into a river and leaving your companion to try to claw their way out in vein resulting in their death? Nah…nothing wrong with your perspective on this one.

    I agree with SilentE. Rush nailed this one.

    There are hundreds of ways to honor Kennedy (as if he deserves it) that don’t involve coercing people to pass the biggest piece of legislation in recent American history. The decision to vote one way or another should be based on sound reasoning, not emotional “Do it for Teddy” RAH-RAH crap.

  4. Rush exploits the irrational fears of his listeners to line his pockets…plain and simple. How much imagination does it really take for someone to use Ted Kennedy’s illness/death in this way?? He is insulting his listeners with his predictable dribble except they can’t see it because they are brainwashed by him. Rush’s listeners treat him as if he is some sort of messiah…and he’s laughing all the way to the bank. Obviously…when it comes to much of talk radio it’s all about quantity over quality.

  5. The Chappaquidick event will finally be put to rest with the Senator. Most of us are fortunate that our mistakes, poor judgements, and drunken errors do not hang over us our entire adult lives. During his lifetime, the Senator could never escape the condemnation of people who believe in forgiveness. I suspect that he has atoned for this many times and is thankful that he only has this one more time with St. Peter.

    1. I never listen to Rush Limbaugh and thus never heard of him saying that until today. He was right, and just sounded like he was revisiting this. In the audio, he even said that “anyone could have predicted it.” It doesn’t really even sound like he was crowing about it.

      I’m not a fan of Rush Limbaugh, but how does this deem him worthy of hell? He’s not dancing on Kennedy’s grave, merely pointing out that the political left is using Kennedy’s death as a rallying point for healthcare legislation (just as he and many others had predicted).

      Also, I remember reading years ago about Limbaugh’s addiction and arrest for illegal possession of prescription narcotics. I also remember how much liberals were ready to jump all over his “mistake.” Where were you guys when Mary Jo Kopechne died? Oh yeah, the lefties in Massachusetts continued to elect him all the way to the end of his life…over 40 years since Chappaquidick. The only other senator to have been in the senate longer is Robert Byrd, a former KKK member.

      Please, lecture conservatives on morality again…

      1. “Please, lecture conservatives on morality again…”

        Where in this post does Zach “lecture conservatives on morality…”??? You sure are reading a lot into this post.

        Although…if anyone needs a lecture on morality I would say the conservatives…in all their religious hypocrisy…need it the most.

        1. It’s called deductive reasoning. That’s a skill that people have when they connect the dots and see what innuendos are made and implied (see the title of this entry…when did Limbaugh congratulate himself in the audio…he said “anyone” could have predicted this). For more such examples, read a Dan Bice column in the Journal Sentinel and you will see more examples of saying things without explicitly saying them.

          People making their peace with God is one thing. People paying for the deeds through the legal system that harm one another is entirely different. Teddy never paid for what he did to Mary Jo Kopechni (except for perhaps buying off the Kopechni family to shut them up, although no one has talked) and is instead revered as some sort of liberal saint. He made many social contributions through his legislations, but never paid for Chappaquidick because he was 1) a lefty and 2) a Kennedy.

          Rush Limbaugh is deemed worthy of hell for recalling that he made the observation that the lefties would use Kennedy’s death as a rallying point for healthcare? So, should everyone who makes a point surrounding a sad event be subject to the fires of hell?

          Normally, I read this because I enjoy reading the opposing viewpoints of an informed liberal (mostly Zach’s posts, PartiallyBlue’s posts are as or more ignorant than Eugene Kane’s columns). However, this really crossed a line in the utter hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty of demonizing a talk radio host while ignoring the deplorable actions of Teddy Kennedy.

          1. Cameron…either you are one of those mind-reader types or you enjoy making things up in your own mind. Try reading the post and don’t add your own paranoia into the mix. In other words…”get a grip”.

          2. Cameron, here’s the post I wrote acknowledging Sen. Kennedy’s passing. You’ll note that I mentioned his his tragic – and somewhat scandalous- private life as a younger man, as well as noting that he had personal flaws and failings.

            Sen. Kennedy was far from perfect (then again, who isn’t), but the fact that some conservatives are still eager to demonize him 40 years after the Chappaquiddick incident speaks volumes.

            Oh, and Cameron? If you want to talk about morality, as if Republicans are somehow more moral than Democrats, let me know, because that’s a discussion I’d love to have, because there’s no shortage of Republicans who’ve had their fair share of moral problems.

      2. Where was I when Mary Jo died? In 1969 I was protesting the congressional Democrats who were running the Vietnam War and later the Republican President who continued it. Then I spent 6 years in the USN. Then in 2003 I protested the war on Iraq and in 2005(?) I objected to President Bush actually visiting Communist Vietnam and ringing the opening bell in their stock exchange. I thought that was the epitome of American hypocrisy.

        I don’t particularly care that Sen. Kennedy has not met some form of living punishment that you or others would like to see. It is 40 years later and the Senator served this country honorably. If you cannot see both sides of the man and say that ‘he was flawed as a young man but rose above his flaws as he matured’ then that is a shame.
        There are plenty of men who waste their lives and cower because they fear greatness or great events. Sen. Kennedy was no such man at the end although he started out that way in Chappaquiddick.
        When you have your first failure of character we will see if you have the fortitude to overcome it. When you have your second, we will learn what you are truly made of.

        1. I can respect that Teddy did accomplish a lot in the Senate and stood by his principles – even though I disagreed with him on most issues.

          However, I don’t at all grant that he totally rose above his flaws and matured. Did he stop his womanizing & excessive drinking?

          And to say

          When you have your first failure of character we will see if you have the fortitude to overcome it. When you have your second, we will learn what you are truly made of.

          A “failure of character” just does not accurately reflect that. I don’t believe he was every truthful in his admissions of the events of that night, and never really took responsibility for his actions. As such, every day he continued the lie was a further failure of character.

          Chappaquidick was not the sum of the man – his life was much more. But it also should not be minimized.

          1. “I don’t believe he was every truthful in his admissions of the events of that night, and never really took responsibility for his actions. As such, every day he continued the lie was a further failure of character.”

            And that is my point. Ted Kennedy never met some people’s expectation of a living punishment. In his case, I think that some people wanted him to be disgraced and to show some public shame over the event. Similar, but not identical, to Gov. Sanford. There is an expectation that Ted Kennedy should have performed some public humiliatiom event like Jimmy Swaggart or Tammy Faye did.

            I feel the same way about Col. Oliver North that others feel about Ted Kennedy. Col. North was, and possibly still is, an unctious individual who was sanctimonius beyond belief.Professing to love America while undermining the very structure of governmental authority. However, whem Col. North passes away I will honor his service before Reagan became President and none of his service after that. Col. North never did what Sen. Kennedy did after failure; Col. North never became a greater man, he became a lesser man.

            I do not intend to defend the early years of Ted Kennedy. I just say again that when measuring the man, his life should be examined in total. And if some think that he has never atoned for his early years,well, he is doing that now before St. Peter.I hope for the last time.

            1. I think North is a poor example here. He admitted his actions, he just wouldn’t budge on that they were for the right reasons. Yet another case of why letting the ends justify the means is wrongheaded. Anyway, the other thing about North that makes it a bad comparison – he did pay a price. He was fired. He was convicted (though not as much as he should have been). It ended his career.

              The only price Kennedy paid was the Presidency. Chappaquidick should have cost him his political career. He could have gone on to contribute to society in millions of other ways, but not in politics. And the only reason it didn’t – and this really gets to the biggest point of irritation – was all about who he was. Anyone else in that position, serves jail time and gets booted from office. He was a Kennedy and his brothers were tragically killed. So he got a pass.

      3. “Where were you guys when Mary Jo Kopechne died?”

        Uh, I wasn’t alive, Cameron. That’s where I was when Mary Jo Kopechne died.

        What I’m amazed at is how unwilling the conservative commenters here are to show a little forgiveness. I suppose you all must be Old Testament Christians, whereas I’m more of a New Testament guy myself.

  6. Why is the passage of time significant?

    Teddy left a woman to die. He then used a combination of money, family power & influence and a cockamamie story to weasel out of trouble. He also played on the sympathies of all those still emotional over his brothers’ assassinations as if we owed it to him to let him get away with negligent homicide. I don’t see any reason to forgive such a person.

    The fact that he went on to become a career politician makes it worse. He is, and always will be, the text book example of the great lengths to which dishonorable folks will go to rationalize genuinely disgusting behavior just because someone has money and political influence. Dems and Reps are both guilty of it. But there rarely is ever any honor in politics.

    1. “But there rarely is ever any honor in politics.”

      Yeah…”Roland Melnick”…you got that one right. Same goes with blogging about politics…you are a perfect example.

  7. I’m not sure how many of you have had a family member killed for no reason. I know what it feels like. It happened 28 years ago and it still hurts. Please don’t pull the “forgiveness” thing unless you’ve actually lived it. If you have and you forgave the person then more power to ya but if not….. Zip it.

  8. I might add that I have never carried the water for the actions of a Mark Sanford, George Ryan, Larry Craig, or Mark Foley either. All of them did things that not only were politically suicidal, but also revealing that they were not willing to practice what they preached. Hypocrisy exists on both sides, that’s why it’s particularly baseless to throw bricks at Rush Limbaugh for merely pointing out that he was right on.

    Religion has nothing to do with criminal justice not being served. For you to bring up the distinction of religion and try to mix that with politics is also very disingenuous since your side has always criticized the mixture of religious beliefs and politics (I actually happen to agree with that). My own religious beliefs have no bearing on being annoyed that Kennedy never saw justice for his actions at Chappaquiddick. He was never a very good role model of morality until late in his life (after his nephew was acquitted of rape charges in Florida).

    Getting back to the point that caused this controversy in the first place, YOU, Zach, were the one that said that “There’s a special place in hell reserved for Rush Limbaugh.” Yet you say that conservatives are unwilling to forgive. You claim to be a New Testament believer? I’d recommend you read the New Testament because I’m pretty sure that it says nothing flattering about one who would wish someone to be in hell.

    Shame on you.

    1. I didn’t wish Limbaugh to hell; I simply noted that’s where he’s headed. He’s proven time and time again that he’s a despicable human being. Am I willing to forgive Limbaugh for being a despicable human being? Absolutely, and then I’ll be sure to condemn him the next time he acts like a sack of crap.

      As for the “shame on you” comment, save your righteous indignation for someone else.

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