36 thoughts on “A post-election open thread: how do Wisconsin’s Democrats move forward?

  1. The first and probably most difficult thing is understand why you lost. It wasn’t Mike Tate, it wasn’t too many stupid people, it wasn’t racism or sexism, it wasn’t Citizens United, it wasn’t the failure to stand with President Obama etc…..

    It was progressivism! It is the ideas promulgated on blogs like this one. It is the uniquely bad idea of Obamacare. It is the ugliness of folks who declare any opponent a racist, sexist, teacher hater, Islamaphobe etc… It is a reflexively anti-business and anti-success mindset.

    I could go on but what would be the point. You folks are in denial. You are more than willing to throw anyone and everyone under the bus except the one thing that needs to be there, your ideas and actions. I share these truths in part because I know that they will only be met by a flurry of clever insults and will not be considered. Your welcome.

  2. Denis,

    Poll after poll after poll shows that the American people support progressive ideas,i.e. tax reform that makes the wealthy and corps pay appropriately, single payer health insurance, living wages, Wall Street regulation, and on and on and on. Thanks for weighing in but you don’t know what you’re talking about. Gotta go for the day. More later.

    1. I get it Steve, you are far superior to me in intellect and wisdom. Your progressive ideas are embraced throughout the land. Yet inexplicably, the people most likely to deliver on those ideas were just pounded in a landslide election. Weird.

      1. I get it Steve, you are far superior to me in intellect and wisdom.

        You finally stated something that is truthful, yet somehow I feel you have also plainly lied about what you are really thinking. And when haven’t you made the discussion about yourself when someone disagrees with your ideas? You contradict yourself in your first statement regarding Obomba not being the cause of the loss and then claiming O’s plagiarizing the Republican Romney Care ACA was part of the reason for the latest D loss at the polls. People here don’t loosely label misogynists and bigots as such, just those people that demonstrate through their ideas, speech and challenged reasoning who do clearly fit the standard definitions.

        By your own behavior of showering us with your unsolicited election analysis, you apparently don’t yet know that no one here is going to ever buy you drivel, so what’s your point of bringing it? Maybe to idiotically claim that losing an election disproves the ideals, compassion, caring, real morality, social justice and human rights concepts behind progressivism, which in fact it doesn’t. Progressives are who they are, precisely because they cannot be bought.

        We’ve heard your BS over and over and still won’t drink the Tea at your little party. But your claim to your intellectual inferiority, strongly suggests that we could talk until our hair all fell out and we turned blue in the face, (having blue fists already) and it still wouldn’t convince you.

        You could take your mental masturbation above, and make the same claim about progressivism at a right wing web-site and you’d be laughed off the forum. They’d tell you the reason the right won big was lies, personal defamation of the other candidate, divide and conquer, bought and paid for state-wide MSM bias (TV and Gannett and MJS), criminal campaign coordination, voter suppression and intimidation and on and on, fear mongering about union bosses (did they ever name one?). That’s what was seen widely throughout the state so I don’t need to go to a right-wing web site to figure it out or to prove it.

        Unless you are here seeking political conversion (hardly) or some kind forgiveness or self-reaffirmation because of personal guilt and self-loathing about who you voted for, leave people here alone. You and several others behave exactly like stalkers. Your patriarchal authoritarian condescension isn’t needed, your ideals are not ours and never will be, so if you claim that what I’ve said is not true, then the only other reason you come here is to attempt to piss people off and troll for reactions because it gets you off in some perverted fashion. My blog, you’d have been long ago banned. Not my blog though. Perhaps Zach would put up a poll so we could vote on it.

        1. I suppose it is only a matter of time before I am banned from this site. Progressives tend to prefer a unchallenged bubble over vigorous debate. Plus you are so routinely spanked by my clear reasoning that my presence (and that of other clear thinking people) on this site only undermines your goal of advancing progressivism. I come to this site mainly to practice rhetorical layups and to offer better ideas for the few who might be swayed by your ilk. And regarding a vote on banning me, I suspect it would succeed for you, quite unlike your political ideas in the real world.

          1. Rhetorical fallacy number 1, your comment is a sweeping generalization, you said progressives tend to prefer unchallenged bubble… Bullshit, we usually vigorously debate our own best course and strategies, criticize our leadership, etc., and we simply recognize right-wing crap when we see it. No mystery. Your rhetorical layups ain’t even close to the rim, maybe try using a ball (facts) next time. And my critique of your presence here was specific, applying only to the troll or three that comment here.

            So you get off on spanking, (did I mentioned perversion? Now admitting physical abusiveness?) well I gotta tell you, that doesn’t surprise me in the least, but, I really ain’t seen anywhere that you’ve ever actually made contact. I can however, easily differentiate between someone’s delusions of intellectual grandiosity and an actual informed debate. And I haven’t even unintentionally bumped anyone, much less swayed them with my, ‘ilk.’

            I’ll repeat it as you missed reading or comprehending it immediately above (getting a little blue around here, but I haven’t banged my head on a cabinet yet). Losing an election DOES NOT PROVE that progressive ideals and trying to be living them is wrong, nor does it invalidate them at all. Losing an election is NEVER a reason to become “you” in any fashion or sense.

          2. There is nothing Denis has typed that is ban worthy.
            Further, commenting on a comment is one thing, commenting on a commenter is another. THAT is ban worthy. JMO.

            1. Who came in here at the top complaining about the ugliness of the folks here, and that they (we) are all in denial. The whole comment was insulting and belittling people on the left, you missed that? Purposely shared supposed, “truths” (actually insults against people) expecting a flurry of comments.

              That’s not a discussion or a debate about ideas, but SC answered that BS respectfully and got a cynical attempted, disrespectful escalation, an insinuation about intelligence that SC didn’t even hint at, with a measure of passive/aggressive condescension thrown in as a response. JMO with facts.

      2. Denis,

        It’s not my fault you don’t know what you’re talking about. It just so happens that poll after poll after poll shows that the American people support progressive ideas. You only need to look at the results of the referendum questions that appeared on multiple ballots across Wisconsin Tuesday night regarding expanding public health insurance and raising the minimum wage. Both questions passed overwhelmingly; in the 65% to 75% range. So the reasons the GOP won big Tuesday night are complex and due in no small part to the fact that even with what’s considered a robust turnout of 55% or so, 45% of eligible voters still aren’t going to the polls for a variety of reasons, and many who voted for those two questions aren’t voting for politicians who support those issues. But what this boils down to, Denis, is that your explanation of things is just plain flat out wrong. You’re just plain wrong, Denis. You’re just plain flat out fucking unequivocally, indisputably wrong.

        1. Steve,

          Re the referendum results that you offer as proof of support for progressive ideas, I offer an alternative read. It is my understanding that the referenda were advisory in nature, asked in progressive areas with perhaps a primary goal of getting people to the polls in those areas. As such, they did not encounter any serious counterarguments. All they prove really is that progressive ideas are popular in progressive areas. Extrapolating those results statewide just might be a mistake on your part, causing you to overstate the level of support for progressive ideas. So in the end, it really isn’t that complex at all. A majority of people in the state reject the extreme progressive agenda that you champion. That painfully obvious rebuke clearly is impossible for you to swallow, so increasingly strained (complex) explanations coupled with a temper tantrum of sorts is all you have got.

  3. My first thoughts were clouded with great disappointment and anger which were not beneficial to logic and analysis. But as a senior with over seven decades of life experiences, I have learned to allow such early emotional reactions to pass without acting upon them. It is more easily said than done.

    Entering a more reasoned and productive phase of reaction, I have to determine what is possible and what is not. And I must not only expose falsities and failures, but explain why as well as to offer the truth or a solution.

    Also, I must examine, without favoritism what I failed to do, if anything, to address my shortcomings

    And consider the offerings of others, even singing in the Capitol. Excuse me, Steve but what I am saying is to keep your sense of humor and what is important to the effort.

    I’m working on it.

  4. Denis, I’m sorry to say you are very uninformed. You are repeating the Republican propaganda. Progressive ideas are affordable health care for all, get money out of politics, increase the minimum wage, gun control, protect women’s health issues, jobs, income inequality, etc…. The list could goes on and on. These are all issues that are overwhelmingly supported by dems. and reps. The problem is the candidates didn’t step up to the plate and push hard on these ideas. Democratic candidates (especially in Wis.) didn’t stand by their base and their principals but instead attacked their opponent. Mary Burke became negative and did nothing but attack Walker and didn’t spend enough time on explaining clearly WHAT she was going to do, and HOW she planned on doing it. Until the Democratic Party understands that they need to push hard on the issues that matter to the American people, they will continue to lose support and elections. Progressives are on the right side on every issue. It just needs to be presented in the correct way to include everyone including Republicans. The next step is for the grassroots organizations to push aside the party and take over the conversation. There is an organizational base within the grassroots movement that need to step up and turn around the way the issues are being discussed. We need to change from being lead by the party to us leading the party in the right direction.

    1. Well said, but many opportunities to lead without wasting any effort on attempting to drag the party along. Energy is better spent elsewhere, like remaining vigilant in preventing the party from co-opting your hard work and destroying your gains. Example, our county D’s leadership (during the recall and OWS) came quickly with self adhering, 4″ x 4″ window stickers, freshly printed by the DNC, proclaiming, “We Are the 99%,” right as they turned all party resources over to OFA and a local candidates were left to their own devices and their own financial resources to attempt to win their races.

    2. Perhaps I am uniformed GRT. Take a moment if you would and help me solve this riddle. Progressive ideas are “overwhelmingly” supported by dems and reps you say. Dems would be far more likely to pursue and enact progressive legislation. Yet they were were crushed in the midterm elections. How could this happen GRT? Is it really just a matter of tweaking the way the issues are discussed?

      1. Denis,

        There’s no ” perhaps ” about it. You don’t know what the Hell you’re talking about. How could Dems get crushed in the mid-term elections? It’s precisely because THEY DIDN’T champion progressive issues, because they tried to look like republicans, because even in an election thought to be of robust turnout at 55%, 45% of the American people don’t vote, mostly because they don’t think either party will take up the things they care about.

        You’re just plain wrong this time Denis. It’s okay. We all make mistakes. And you just made a great big one.

  5. In the interest of full disclosure, I voted for Scott Walker, so take this with as many grains of salt you see fit. But I should point out that I also voted for Susan Happ. I consider myself a hard line centrist.

    1. Drop the John Doe stuff. It feels like a witch hunt. It has felt like a witch hunt from the beginning. I tend to assume a base level of corruption exists within every administration. It doesn’t seem like anything that has come out regarding the John Doe investigation has exceeded that. Moreover the general public neither understands nor seems to care about it.

    2. Have better candidates. This election felt to me like I was picking the best smelling turd in the toilet. Nothing that Mary Burke said made me want to vote for her. I think the final straw was when those allegations came out that she got fired from trek and she said that she had left because the job was stressful and she needed time off. I would have rather heard that she had been fired. She needs two years off to recover from a job she was only at for three? And she wants me to hand her the keys to the governor’s mansion for what is supposed to be at minimum a four year job? Furthermore she had basically the same campaign message as Tom Barrett; Scott Walker sucks, I’m not Scott Walker, vote for me. I need a better reason than that.

  6. I think we need to start by acknowledging the painful truth of where the DPW is at right now, and going forward: It is, effectively, a third party in WI. Dems have just as much ability to get things done at the state level as the Greens/Socialists/etc. The GOP doesn’t need to (and won’t) acknowledge our existence, let alone make deals/compromises. Save unlikely procedural hail mary’s, Dems can put out press releases and they have a decent mailing list and that’s about it.

    Looking ahead to 2016, Hilary Clinton will be at the top of the ticket, and whatever you think of her, she’s not going to generate the same turnout in WI as Obama has. Turnout will be in the ~2.5 million range again in 2016, and Dems will lose more seats in the legislature.

    Unless we just want to hope for the GOP to overreach and self-destruct, we need to be focused on building towards a strong state-level showing in Nov 2018. (Keep in mind, there’s another round of redistricting coming after 2020.)

    Part of me wants to say the DPW should be dissolved and reconstituted (or at least rebranded) into something else – a Progressive Party, a Labor Party, or adopt MN’s Democrat-Farmer-Labor Party perhaps. Anything like that would need some sitting Dem legislators to get on board, which may be a tough sell. It’s probably more realistic to follow the Tea Party-within-a-Party model.

    However it’s labeled/branded, we need to clearly differentiate ourselves from the GOP and own it. Some ways we can do that:
    • Counter the GOP “pro-business” message with “We want to make WI a great place for everyone to live.” Thriving businesses that pay living wages are a part of that, but not the end of the conversation.
    • Get rid of “successful businessperson” as a prerequisite to be a candidate. We should be running candidates in EVERY race, and a good proportion of these should be low-income service sector workers (or people on fixed-income) who can speak passionately about the realities of living paycheck to paycheck. Recruiting these candidates may present some new challenges, but a lot of the folks who aren’t voting lately will identify with them.
    • Come out with (and run on) an alternative balanced budget that focuses on finding revenues from the top 10% and lowers the sales tax and property taxes. Maybe aim for no state income tax on your first $30k. Make the property tax more progressive- higher rates over $300k/2,000 sqft/2nd homes. How about a higher registration fee for a second or third vehicle? (Also, did you know WI only generates $9mil/yr from the beer excise tax? Think of all the beer consumed in WI!)
    • Come out with new ideas to encourage start-ups/small businesses, instead of favoring the legacy/WMC crowd. Consider a State Bank or the Italian model of pooling people’s unemployment benefits to start co-operatives. Find ways go get start-up capital to folks who aren’t getting it under the current system.
    • Hammer on how local control is being eroded by the GOP, and how state-level tax cuts lead to increased local property taxes. And how rural public schools are being hurt by vouchers.
    • Hammer on insider/crony dealings within the GOP (start with WEDC and PSC), and make damn sure that our candidates and leadership are above reproach.
    • Emphasize that WI’s greatest asset (and differentiator from other states) is our abundance of high-quality water, and how GOP policies are putting that at risk with CAFO expansion, sand mining, GTAC, etc.
    • Communicate how lawsuits are a necessary part of our system of government to counter “tort reform” agenda and claims that the equal pay law was “just to make it easier to sue.” The police don’t come around to businesses to ensure that workers are treated fairly and not discriminated against. A business owner could paint “female employees are not eligible for promotion” in 18-inch letters on the side of his building, and nothing would happen until someone brought a suit.
    • Call out how Milwaukee is being left out in the cold by the GOP for political/racial reasons, and how it could be and should be an engine of growth and innovation benefiting the state as a whole.
    • Hammer on issues that we know have majority support – raising the minimum wage, taking Medicaid expansion, a more progressive tax structure, reducing the cost of higher ed (and refinancing/forgiving student debt), marijuana legalization, background checks for gun purchases, criminalizing 1st offense DWI, reducing traffic congestion (i.e., rail and mass transit), etc. This stuff can motivate people to actually vote.

    1. Excellent list, I’d suggest one time candidate for governor, who resisting the party selected candidate prior to a fractured arm, Senator Kathleen Vinehout as someone who I’m betting would get on board with considering a “party,” restructuring (and be able to assess the wisdom of it) and who would know who else to float the idea in front of.

      1. Yes! I’m a big fan of Sen. Vinehout, and I sure hope she runs for Gov in 2018. Seems like she’s the only person in the state talking any sense about sand mining. Her not being from Madison or Milwaukee will also (sadly) be a political asset.

        Senator, if you’re reading this, please chime in with your thoughts! 🙂

        I think the regionalism in state politics should be addressed over the medium term as well. Your “average” voter from West Bend or Rhinelander views Milwaukee as scary/dangerous and Madison as populated solely by naive college students. This “otherness” is problematic, and lends an almost sports-team-fandom aspect to Wisconsin politics: “Real Wisconsin” vs Madison/Milwaukee. We need to emphasize messages that tie our 2 largest cities to the rest of the state. Milwaukee is the economic engine to which Waukesha/Ozaukee/Washington Counties owe their affluence; and Madison is out-performing the rest of the state economically despite a dearth of conservative/”pro-business” local elected officials.

        We also need to look at why Douglas/Bayfield/Ashland Counties have reliably voted blue (even pre-GTAC), and how this can be replicated in other rural counties. It baffles me why why these 3 counties vote so differently than their neighbors in Iron, Vilas, Sawyer, Washburn Counties, etc.

        1. Lufthase,

          Douglas/Bayfield/Ashland counties were once heavily pro-union, as was Duluth. The ore docks, lumber camps, and mines were very pro-union, and the Wobblies even had an organizers school in Duluth. The so-called ” Red Finns ‘ were a large population up north, Scandinavian communists and socialists all over the place. There are also a pair of very progressive leaning community radio stations up north, WOJB on the Lac Courte Oreilles reservation and KUMD in Duluth. Both 100,000 watts with progressive news programming.

          1. Thanks, Steve. Help me understand this a bit more… There’s still shipping in Superior, so Douglas Co makes sense. But I thought the docks in Bayfield/Ashland Counties had been closed for 40+ yrs. Are the Dem voters there actually former dockworkers or their descendants? And, did the lumber camps in Washburn/Sawyer/Iron/Vilas Counties never organize for some reason? Or, have patterns of migration to “god’s country” over the last few decades been significantly different in Ashland/Bayfield vs surrounding counties? On the surface these places seem more similar than different to me, so the political differences are puzzling.

            By the way, I love WOJB!! I’m well within it’s range, but surrounded by NRA and Anti-Choice (and even Anti-Wolf) bumper stickers.

            1. lufthase,

              I’m no scholar of the area so I can’t answer your questions in any authoritative manner. I would point out that in 2008 both Sawyer and Washburn counties carried for Obama, so the perception that there aren’t any democrats there is wrong. Another northland factor is that Native America generally votes as democratic as the African American community but doesn’t historically come out in mid-terms either. I do think the general legacy of unionism and the Red Finns is known and alive in Bayfield/Ashland counties, and Northland College in Ashland has been a factor as well. What I know for sure is that it’s very reliably blue in the northwest corner of the state and just keeps getting redder as you head to the middle.

          2. Thanks for the reference to WOJB and KUMD– both are available everywhere via “Tune-In Internet Radio”.

            Sick of Charlie Sykes (“Baghdad Bob” for everything Republican) and others of the Tea Party propaganda ministry? There are alternatives available.

            Listen only enough of WTMJ and WISN to know what sponsors to boycott.

  7. If we were more interested in getting out the vote than using fancy new pheaves like “move forward”. What a stupid question? How do dems move forward? Put one foot in front of the other. Damn! We can be so dumb.

  8. I would like to see us demand not either less or more government but rather better government and smarter government. What we need and must absolutely stand up for is government for ordinary people. Policies, proposals, bills and laws that our Governor and legislators deal with must pass the test of how this benefits or improves the lives of ordinary people. Should our leaders refuse that test then it is time to throw them out. Our government should be about giving us a state in which the hungry are fed, the ill are tended to and people have living wage jobs so that none have to live in poverty. Those we elected must focus not on big or small government but rather show a deep down concern over who government works for. If our government is focused on special interests, corporations and political donors then we know that this government does not work for us. The way in which government spends our money[taxes] must clearly show that it pays off in making out lives better. If lobbyists and lawyers are monopolizing our elected officials time then the agenda is wrong and government is not working for us! Wisconsin belongs to the people and if corporations hold the ear and eye of government and money is exchanging hands then this government that is in power does not belong to those of us who elected them but rather it belongs to an ideology or a political party not the people! If we continue to attack one another as in the above comments that gives those in power license to ignore the people and continue with business as usual which means more for special interests and nothing for us.

  9. Look, as the sole determiner of who does or doesn’t get banned from Blogging Blue, I’d just like to politely ask that you all just take a deep breath, push back your keyboards, and go for a walk.

    I understand that politics can make for some very passionate discussions, but we all (left and right) should be discussing/debating issues, not attacking each other. Denis can write all he wants about “rhetorical layups” and be as snide and condescending as he wants, but instead of getting angry at him, I simply laugh.

    1. Thank you Zach. I have a simple question, on topic and devoid of any condescension and snideness. If progressive ideas are popular as is routinely stated here, why is it that the candidates and party most likely to pursue those ideas were soundly defeated in the recent vote? As one who has very often felt disappointed by election results, I know this kind of refection can be a painful. I recognize that the general populace is not where I am politically. My suggestion is that the same is true of progressives on this site and elsewhere. The one thing I think progressives need to do to move forward is to recognize this reality and adjust accordingly.

  10. I’m not going to be baited into an argument. It seems that some people want to do nothing but. That in itself is a big part of the problem (divide and conquer). The question asked in this open thread is “How do Dems move forward”. My solution is work on the ISSUES where the VOTERS from both parties agree. We can start by addressing the fact that our elected politician from both parties do not work for us. They work for the special interest. We need to put overwhelming pressure on them to stop this. They need to be continually challenged publically by their constituents to do what we want or they face losing their job. The prime example is having BASIC gun regulations. 90% of the people in this county want this but yet the special interest still get their way. The American public should be revolting over this. I do understand that amending the constitution is the long term solution to this but in the short term humiliating politician by constantly exposing their record in public could get us there quicker.

  11. This democrat is moving forward out of this hillbilly hellhole. There are a whole slew of bills coming due and those who stay will suffer. Rejecting high speed rail and pulling a billion dollars out of education aren’t “oh this would be nice to have” kind of stuff. This is vital to the economy of this state which has resoundingly been rejected by the voters here. Other areas of the country are legalizing marijuana. Our solution? Drug testing the unemployed. Laughable. This state is doomed. There may be a chance if heads roll at the WDP and some liberal firebrands come forth and not these mealy mouth Reagan worshipping teabag-light candidates.

    1. Best of luck to you, not keen on relocating at my age and present circumstance, but have kept some options open. I’m temporarily in the, “Give ’em enough rope,” crowd until things shake out a bit. There are several issue specific progressive groups that are making serious in-roads, and local government options like paying attention to what your county and muni governments are up to helps in making decisions. County supervisors of the GOP persuasion, not getting enough resources from the GOP legislature are starting to whine louder. Learn who is saying what and why.

      Repubs have a bit of dissension in the ranks nationally, grab your popcorn. Boycott RoJo brand though, Vos didn’t sign the recall. With Walker running for POTUS he’ll be needing both factions of the GOP to get anywhere.

  12. Please do not get distracted by a squirrel; focus on how to win elections. Mike Tate has not figured it out and needs to move on. I am also acknowledging that it is a hard task as the midterms seem elusive to dems.

    Tate does not have the confidence of the “on the ground” activists that go out canvassing in both tea party areas and urban areas. He has failed to motivate and message and needs to be replaced.

  13. The reason why Scott Walker won is very simple. The economy improved under his watch. I don’t believe this was because of Scott Walker but rather it’s a national recovery. We are still recovering from a national foreclosure crisis. Act 10 went farther then I agree, I think compensation should be governed by local governing bodies. But rules prior to Act 10 heavily favored unions and did not serve the public interest. Democrats would be better off dropping the Act 10 issue.

    Scott Walker’s second term won’t be easy. He is facing a budget shortfall on top of a pledge to cut taxes again. I see similarities between Walker and Thompson. Thompson sent money back to the people in the go go 1990s and ran for president when tech bubble popped.

    As for Obama and the national democrats. Six years into any presidency, it should not be a surprise to lose seats. Obamacare although not perfect is an improvement. Medicare and Social Security were not always well liked. Few would suggest appealing these programs today and Obamacare will be the same.

    I don’t agree with Obama’s foreign policy or lack thereof. Nor am I strong supporter of any party or ideology. I guess I will end by saying waves come and go.

  14. I think that we need to look at the structure of the Party itself. I like that now with the DPW everything is online, open and accessible to activists. How are we going to gain 400,000 new voters in off year elections? I think at a certain point activists need to realize we are the state party and if we cannot revitalize the state party, then we are not going to to see the candidates we want get elected. Will we go to a caucus endorsement system as the DFL has in Minnesota. I think we should start looking at how we want to change the structure of the party rather than just getting rid of the people inside the party many of whom may support our ideas. http://wisdems.org/OurParty

  15. The idea that it was “progressive” ideas that caused this round of defeats is nonsense. Most people are at least moderates and if you actually asked people specifically on what they think about issues, they will be rated as progressive/moderate in most cases.

    It wasn’t Mike Tate’s fault. It wasn’t Mary Burke’s fault, except for the media training she could have had that would have never allowed the “plagiarism” ad to have happened. Was it the possibility that someone outside of Madison could have been a better candidate? Who knows. Would Russ have won back in the Recall season? Barca? Vinehout?

    The problem was early voting times having been cut, political burnout residuals from the Recall season, dedicated seniors and others on a hefty Fox News Fear Diet willing to go out and vote, and yes, rural derangement of Madison and Milwaukee that cripples this state on many levels.

    Walker knows the dog whistles to keep that happening, which is perplexing to anyone outside this state who would wonder why a governor wants to demonize two of the state’s largest cities. He is a smooth divide-and-conquer snake oil salesman who has been well trained.

    Unfortunately, Walker supporters will have to actually see just how damaging his policies are before they consider that they were duped by slick ads and political amnesia. We have the suffer in the process while continuing to fight back.

  16. First, the Democrats need to pick candidates based on ideas, not on who has the most money. Second, on the political spectrum, I see the Democrats as moderate. What we really need are candidates who fall on the Left of the spectrum. We need to start thinking about taking care of Wisconsinites with social programs that ensure everybody (regardless of where they fall on the spectrum or level of wealth) has a fair chance at success. We need elected officials with a humanitarian approach to policymaking and governance. We need politicians who will stand up and argue that the “You’re-on-your-own” policies of the Right benefit only very few, and instead, we should start thinking of the whole.

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