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“Just turn lemons into lemonade!”

   August 9, 2010

I wonder if Republican U.S. Senate candidate Dave Westlake, who has made it abundantly clear he’s 100% opposed to abortion, even if a woman is a victim of rape or incest, agrees with Republican U.S. candidate Sharron Angle of Nevada, who in speaking about her 100% opposition to abortion compared forcing a rape victim to carry her rapist’s baby to turning a “lemon situation into lemonade:”

Stock: What do you say then to a young girl, I am going to place it as he said it, when a young girl is raped by her father, let’s say, and she is pregnant. How do you explain this to her in terms of wanting her to go through the process of having the baby?

Angle: I think that two wrongs don’t make a right. And I have been in the situation of counseling young girls, not 13 but 15, who have had very at risk, difficult pregnancies. And my counsel was to look for some alternatives, which they did. And they found that they had made what was really a lemon situation into lemonade.

Yeah, because nothing says “making lemons into lemonade” like forcing victims of rape and incest to carry their perpetrators’ babies to full term!

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11 thoughts on ““Just turn lemons into lemonade!””

  1. How is this any more extreme than Russ Feingold supporting partial birth abortion?

    1. Let me understand this right. You are calling telling a woman what to do with her private body akin to saying that the government should not tell a woman what to do with her body?

      I don’t support partial birth abortion either, but you can’t compare the two like that. I would support the procedure if it was to save the mother’s life, but I admit I can’t think of HOW that could save a mother’s life.

      Either way I’m sure it’s more that he opposes restrictions on a woman’s body than he “supports” partial birth abortion.

      1. You didn’t actually address the question at all. Again, how his this a more extreme view than partial birth abortions?

        Abortion is more or less a 50/50 issue.
        The rape/incest exceptions are probably 75/25 or so, making Johnson’s position somewhat unpopular. If you wanted to call it extreme, I’d disagree but it’s certainly out of the main stream.
        Partial birth abortions are probably 98/2. It’s nothing short of barbaric and at that point, the rights of a woman to do what she wants with her body are absolutely moot.

        So you want to paint Johnson’s position on this as out there or extreme – yet he’s a dot on the horizon to how extreme Feingold is.

          1. More avoidance. First of all, why does it matter? If something horrific is only happening occasionally, we should just ignore it? It’s several orders of magnitude more frequently than waterboarding. But to answer the question, probably the best estimate was from Ron Fitzsimmons, executive director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers, who back in 1997 estimated it was between 3000 and 5000 annually. I neither know, nor care how that breaks down in Wisconsin since state lines couldn’t be more inconsequential given the rest of the issues.

            1. Actually the numbers I have heard, which I believe were 2008 numbers, were 0 in Wisconsin and I believe 157 nationwide.

              1. The Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act (the one Feingold voted against) was passed by Congress & signed into law in 2003, so it’s not exactly surprising the numbers have dropped. Of course considering the act is now against the law, and considering the privacy and secrecy involved it’s reasonably safe to say it still happens, but in what numbers are always going to be a guess.

                It’s worth noting what exactly the procedure is that Mr. Feingold (and Kohl and some others) though was just fine & dandy:

                Specific steps in the most commonly used partial-birth abortion procedure, Dilation and Extraction, are:
                1. A medical professional induces a breech (feet first) delivery with forceps.
                2. Legs, arms and torso of the fetus are delivered (i.e. expelled from the mother).
                3. The back of the fetus’ skull is punctured with a scissors-like instrument.
                4. A suction device is inserted into the skull.
                5. The device sunctions out the contents of the fetus’ skull, causing the skull to collapse.
                6. The lifeless fetus is delivered.
                Source

  2. Also – Zach, I like what you did there. Subtly attribute the lemons & lemonade quote to Johnson, and even provide a link. Except that Johnson is not mentioned anywhere in the article and made no such comment. Deftly enough to leave you wiggle-room to answer back, “I never actually said Johnson said that.” Well played sir. Displaying those kind of chops can get you a job working PR for either of the two parties.

    1. Locke, which “Johnson” are you referring to? I ask because not once in the entry did I ever refer to a Johnson, though I did mention a Westlake and an Angle.

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