“YOU LIE!”

I sure wish someone would say that to Paul Ryan when he says shit like this:

MILWAUKEE — U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan warned in a speech Monday that the nation was headed for a debt crisis, its finances at a critical juncture.

“We’re coming into what I would call a tipping point,” he said. “The more concerning tipping point is a cultural one, where we have more takers than makers in America.”

Or this:

We face a crushing burden of debt. The debt will soon eclipse our entire economy, and grow to catastrophic levels in the years ahead.

The next generation will inherit a stagnant economy and a diminished country.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!  Oh, and also bullshit!

This is ridiculous, of course, because we can always roll over previous debt and pay interest on it as it comes due. In fact, during the past 11 years as Ben Strubel shows, we’ve rolled over $437 Trillions in debt. And as Mike Norman says,we’ve rolled over $32 Trillions thus far in Fiscal 2012 alone.

We’ll always be able to roll over our public debt if that’s what we choose to do because a debt instrument is the functional equivalent of a savings account, and frequently those who hold USD including foreign nations have the effective choice of keeping their USD in a reserve account or buying a debt instrument. They’d rather buy the debt instruments because they earn interest. However, low the rate of interest is, it’s better than the rate they’ll get if they keep their USD in their reserve account, unless the Fed decides to pay Interest-On-Reserves (IOR).

Can our national debt increase indefinitely? The short answer is: yes it can. The reason is that a Government like the United States with a fiat non-convertible currency, a floating exchange rate, and no debts in any other nation”s currency, has no solvency risk because it can always create money to pay its obligations. Its debt instruments therefore are nearly risk-free. They’re a safe harbor for investors who’d rather earn a return on the USD they hold, then content themselves with keeping it in a reserve account, that typically earns no interest.

Paul Ryan is a professional liar.  He’s very good at it, though more and more it’s clear that he’s not wearing any clothes.  If you’re tired of this kind of Republican F.U.D., give generously to Rob Zerban’s campaign against Ryan.  Give until it hurts.

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67 thoughts on ““YOU LIE!”

  1. Again. No problems here, its not like we are wishing death on a representative or calling out citizens who exercised their constitutional rights and signed the recall petition.

  2. During the past week I have seen this phrase at least two dozen times, and exactly six times today. I am not attempting to be the spelling or grammar Nazi and this is not directed at anyone in a negative way, however:

    It is “reined in” not “reigned in.”

  3. Paul Ryan is a scum bag, he and his mom got Social Security Survivors benefits when he was a kid and his father died. HE IS A TAKER HIMSELF. Conservatives are scum of the earth. NEVER in the history of mankind has conservative ideology ever helped anyone, except those in power. Hitler is the most well known conservative Christian. He was successful in killing a lot of people, and …..um….thats it.

  4. To paraphrase Dr. Greg House: “Republicans lie.” Yes, it’s common knowledge.

    IMHO we need less “breaking” of old news and more thought about how to counter the lies.

    1. That’s a fair point about “breaking” old news, and I’d like to think we do a fair amount of “breaking” old/new news while also combating the lies Republicans tell.

      1. Let me say it in a different way. Treating Republican lies as if they were the very first ones that you ever encountered, over and over, is a bit like playing Monopoly and never leaving “Go”.

        I wasn’t referring to old news stories, but the long-established fact that Republicans lie presented as a shocking new revelation. It’s about time to progress past the painfully obvious and let the discussion progress to more advanced topics. I use the phrase “it should go without saying” often, so it’s strange to say that it warrants saying, and saying emphatically that lying is wrong. I think that we’ve so accustomed to the barrage of lies that we’ve forgotten this basic tenet.

        I don’t know how many societies over the ages have said “we’ll never turn into monsters” and then gone on to become monsters. I just don’t want to be part of one.

        1. You totally missed the point of the title of Phil’s diary and his obvious reference to Joe Wilson’s (R-SC), Sept. 2009 yelling, “you lie,” at Obama during O’s major health care initiative speech to Congress. Phil seemed to merely be saying that he wished a similar fate awaited Ryan, I believe, every time Ryan opens his mouth. Nothing more, nothing less.

          Your whining about we know Republicans lie and your claim that, that fact is being presented as a shocking new revelation and we need to move on to more, “advanced,” topics is the biggest bunch of laughable, attempted philosophical pseudo-analysis, self-aggrandizing bs I’ve read recently.

          Your equally ridiculous, precious little addendum about not wanting to be part of a society of monsters doesn’t follow anything else in your comment and after ROTFLMAO, I’m simply wanting some of whatever it is you’ve been smoking.

          And to remark on your farcical 7:16 PM, most humble hooey, “[what we] need less of,” I would opine that there is no time like the present to spotlight the latest blasphemer and that exposing every NEW lie immediately in public, actually IS one of the best ways to counter those R creeps.

        2. I don’t know how many societies over the ages have said “we’ll never turn into monsters” and then gone on to become monsters. I just don’t want to be part of one.

          Too late…. Much too late.

  5. Corey,

    Not sure what world you’re living in, but Hitler was neither a conservative or a Christian. He was a big-government fascist, which arguably put him on the left side of the spectrum more than the right. As to your charge of him being a Christian, I would say he probably didn’t subscribe to any religion; he was about power, not sacred duty.

    1. Aaron, you really need to read history before you post.

      I think it’s fair to say that the word “conservative” has been redefined from its original meaning of conservation to represent the extremist right-wing authoritarians who dominate the Republican Party. Traits like racism, jingoism, authoritarianism, social engineering etc. etc. etc. make today’s Republicans textbook fascists. So unless you’re arguing over semantics, Hitler was most certainly a conservative as the word is used here and now.

      Hitler was a lifelong Roman Catholic, which is generally included in the definition of “Christian”. In fact, many of Hitler’s inner circle were practicing Catholics. Likewise, Pope Pius XII was a great friend of the Nazi regime and an enemy of the Nazis’ enemies.

    2. Hitler was the ultimate conservative.

      He sought to “conserve” the “Aryan race” through the persecution of “inferior races.” The Nuremberg Racial Laws of 1935 was designed to codify this “conservation” process. They were designed to prevent the dilution of “German blood” through “race mixing.”

      Of course we in America didn’t get around to eliminating our miscegenation laws until 1967 with the landmark Loving v Virginia case.

      It’s interesting to note that the initial ruling by a judge in the case, one Leon M. Bazile, wrote in defense of Virginia’s law prohibiting interracial marriage,

      Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.

      Sounds awfully similar to what was written in Germany in the 1930s about the separation of “Germans” and Jews…

      The new laws — the citizenship law and the law for the protection of German blood and honor — that were passed by the Reichstag during the Party Rally of Freedom — have finally, after many years of struggle between Germandom and Jewry, created clear cut relations. Jewry is defined as a national minority and will be given the opportunity to create their own independent cultural and national life under the protection of the state. Any intervention in the life of the German nation will from now on be impossible and forbidden. The laws were received with satisfaction and enthusiasm.

      If the left must atone for Stalin, than the right certainly must atone for Hitler. Own it.

  6. To AR @ 9:23 PM

    And it would stand to your reasoning then, that Walker would be defined as a small-government fascist, in that he now has direct legislative rule making authority and has directly attempted to personally control most everything (appointed crony department heads rather than elected personnel and created new authorities [deer czar]) in the state? Ha!

    I loves me this articulate commenting where things can go from Ryan’s lies to where, “avoid being labeled a grammar Nazi,” turns into Republican/Hitler comparisons, to who’s the biggest (the left or right-wing) fascist. Totally on freaking topic right from the start./s Entertaining though.

  7. Memory Man (ironic name)

    Jingoism perhaps, but none of the rest. Republicanism is not inherently authoritarian or racist. Authoritarianism and Libertarianism are pretty much diametrically opposed ideologically, so that would make conservatism an unlikely bedfellow with Authoritarianism. And I hope you don’t make me spell that out more than I just did.

    Racism cuts across both parties and has historically done so for more than a century. I’m sure you’re a smart guy, so you are probably aware that the KKK has its origins in the Democrat Party – meaning racism isn’t partisan per se, but a social phenomenon that chooses sides with cultural shifts. I work at a firehouse. I can tell you with absolute certainty that there are as many racist Democrats as there are Republican. Perhaps the union Democrats are more prone to be racist than non-union Democrats – I don’t know because I haven’t studied it – as a Latino, I’ve observed it firsthand on both sides.

    Another point often neglected is that Hitler was not just big government, he was a lifelong member of a socialist party. He was big government in most senses of the word. Also, conservatives do not like government intrusion, especially involving their private affairs and their ownership rights. Hitler was not a conservative. I wouldn’t peg him as a liberal either, but he was more on the left than he was on the right.

    1. Another point often neglected is that Hitler was not just big government, he was a lifelong member of a socialist party. He was big government in most senses of the word. Also, conservatives do not like government intrusion, especially involving their private affairs and their ownership rights. Hitler was not a conservative. I wouldn’t peg him as a liberal either, but he was more on the left than he was on the right.

      None of which is a response to the evidence I provided that he was a conservative in word and deed. Your failure / inability to address the issue with facts instead of opinions leads me to believe that you are simply making stuff up.

      And please provide the evidence that Hitler was a “lifelong member of the socialist party” where “socialist” is not “national socialist.”

  8. Come on Aaron your smarter than that. Hitler wasa socialist the way that Bush’s “clean air act” kept the air clean. It was a label meant to throw the people off to what he really was. Hitler is pure right wing.

    I agree that Conservatives do not like “big government intrusion” which is why Conservatives died out with Ike. If you truly hate big government intrusion than you are screwed because there is not a single elected republican statewide or national who you can vote for.

  9. Jeff,

    You guys can’t have it both ways. You can’t say he really wasn’t a socialist when the man belonged to a socialist party, but call him a Christian simply because he was born and baptized as a Catholic.

    1. Its just pure facts Aaron, and I know that you know this. Hitler was to socialism what Gary Ellerman is to the democratic party.

      By the way as a Catholic myself, I never once called Hitler a Christian. I dont throw those terms out like that. I would also never call Santorum, tom Donahue or paul ryan Catholics either. You know the old saying about if you stand in a garage doesn’t make you a car?

      One last thing, Catholicism is a religion, you can not be born a Catholic. You can be born to Catholic parents.

  10. Jeff

    If the child died before he was baptized, would the Catholic Church recognize him as a Catholic?

  11. It appears I may have made a mistake. There is no definite stance by the Catholic Church on infants that die before baptism, and therefore children cannot be born into Catholicism on the basis of parental status or beliefs. The theory of limbo was never authenticated by the magisterium – the Church merely entrusts in the mercy of God that those infants have a role in God’s salvation plan for mankind.

    1. Don’t worry, there’s a priest out there somewhere who will forbid that family from burying their dead infant in a Catholic cemetary.

    2. Don’t worry, there’s a priest out there somewhere who will forbid that family from burying their dead infant in a Catholic cemetery.

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