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Gunman kills two New York Police officers

   December 21, 2014

This is a terrible tragedy.

Two uniformed New York City police officers were gunned down Saturday afternoon while they sat in a marked police car by a gunman authorities say was seeking revenge.

Officer Wenjian Liu, 32 and Rafael Ramos, 40, were fatally shot by Ismaaiyl Brinsley, 28, who had announced online he was planning to shoot two “pigs” in retaliation for the death of Eric Garner, who died in a chokehold by police, according to AP reports.

Brinsley approached the passenger window of the officers’ police car, parked in the Bedford-Stuyvesant area of Brooklyn and opened fire, striking both officers in the head, according to Police Commissioner Bill Bratton.

No matter how anyone feels about the circumstances surrounding the deaths of Eric Garner and Michael Brown at the hands of police officers, violence against police officers is absolutely unacceptable and does nothing to work towards a solution to the larger issue.

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  2. Unrelated to the protesters, except the ones shouting “What do we want! Dead cops! When do we want it! Now!” Lets face it, there are two kinds of protesters, those seeking peaceful change and those promoting violence. The latter are probably happy about the dead cops. Let us not kid ourselves.

    1. Well, you have a mentally disturbed man with a gun and therein likely lie the seeds of causation.

      1. And yet the mentally disturbed man with a gun chose to shoot two police officers. He could just as easily shot two baristas, two cab drivers, two pedestrians etc… I wonder why he chose the cops. Hmmmm.

    2. Where’s Wayne LaPierre and the NRA during all of this? Isn’t that a major reason why cops are so paranoid? A large swath of America is paranoid and heavily armed? Shouldn’t we be hearing something about good guys and bad guys with guns?

      But it’s the protesters fault, Denis? They egged him on somehow, because they’re sick to death of young black men being shot and killed with impunity?

      Jesus Christ. God help us all.

      1. “Where’s Wayne LaPierre and the NRA during all of this?”

        I guess it was only a matter of time before some on the left blamed the right. I don’t speak for the NRA, nor am I a member, but I am pretty sure that if they were publicly chanting a desire for dead cops I would have heard of it by now.

        Despite the disgusting display of some on your side, I still blame the psycho who committed the murder. But like I stated earlier, there is no doubt that some are happy to have dead cops. And they are very much aligned with the progressives.

        1. We have a perp shooter in NYC and a shooter cop Manney in Milwaukee, along with his victim Dontre Hamilton in Milwaukee that could easily be traced back to Reagan gutting mental health care nation-wide and particular failures with mental health services in Milwaukee since Scott Walker began as County Executive there, continuing with the overall failure of adequate mental health services in our society as a whole, being a big part of the blame.

          Any person thinking that progressives are happy about dead cops should immediately be sent to the head of the line and committed for psychological evaluation.

          Mayor de Blasio asking for a moratorium on demonstrating for racial justice to honor the families of the dead patrolmen is a bad joke.

        2. Did you read John Casper’s link, Denis? About a Fox affiliate deliberately editing a video to make it sound like a young black woman was chanting ” kill a cop ” when that’s not at all what she was saying. Doesn’t that strike you as the most flat out fucking despicable thing a so-called news organization could do at a time like this? How about it Denis: you’ve expressed concern here for the African American community and their enslavement at the hands of progressives. Surely it must horrify you that your side wants to whip up a murderous sentiment toward people protesting the police killings of unarmed black people. Oh wait, but that’s what you’re doing, isn’t it?

      1. Daily Beast is reporting that it may have been a pro-Trayvon Martin group. I think it works both ways. Some protestors speak irresponsibly as do some cops (see my latest story link). I think this killing is terrible and tragic and the responsibility of a mentally disturbed criminal who had a gun. And we simply cannot throw out the first amendment on the say-so of Fox News, Giuliani and that disgusting Lynch.

  5. In the news yesterday, I wonder about the effectiveness and am going to re-read this later:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/12/how-to-stop-cop-hunting-113742.html#.VJnCxUABI

    And that link, his latest article is a follow up to the following link, to Bell’s recent influence in getting independent investigators (even though investigators, I believe, were retired Milwaukee Police in the Dontre Hamilton Case recently based in Madison at new positions) assigned in police shootings from sources outside of the particular district being where the incident occurred.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/08/what-i-did-after-police-killed-my-son-110038_Page2.html

    1. Good links. To be truly independent, perhaps the investigating team should draw from other areas of the criminal justice system. I think the other thing we as Progressives have to look at closely is the role of police unions in maintaining this awful status quo. I get the benefit of unions of upholding middle class salaries but I’m appalled at the behavior of Lynch in New York and the cops who would turn their backs on the democratically-elected mayor of the city. And I’m not so keen on the statements made in Milwaukee either. 14 shots. First was in the chest. 14 shots. Many were fired down and none left powder burns. 14 shots. Two officers an hour previously checked Dontre and walked away peaceably. 14 shots. After Manney is fired, the police union votes no confidence in Flynn. I look at the shootings, the militarization of the police, and the unwillingness to talk about reform and I just have to ask – why is it again we should care if Walker takes out the remaining unions? Many voted for him afterall. Why should we bother to fight for them?

  6. Interesting piece with links to total 2013 police deaths and reasons. Also holding out the possibility of these NYC police murders are part of US cointel ops to discredit and repress free speech, turn public opinion against free speech and the rest of our “Bill of Rights,” totally plausible understanding CIA in Iraq, Syria, Ukraine, Vietnam, Central America from before the Reagan years. This is who governs us.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/12/22/despite-deaths-of-two-officers-campaign-against-police-brutality-is-just/

    If the police shooting in Brooklyn is an example of an undercover campaign by the US government to destroy the growing movements against police violence, the notion that the state would sacrifice its foot soldiers is horrific, but not unusual.

    We have to keep in mind that our campaign is just and moral. Our task is to continue to educate the general public.

    In the words of Assata Shakur: “It is our duty to fight for our freedom. It is our duty to win. We must love each other and support each other. We have nothing to lose but our chains.”

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