Please you’re giving me a headache. I can not handle anymore right wing crying wolf about “massive fraud”. We recently collected more than 1 million signatures to recall Governor Scott Walker(540,000) were needed.
As soon as the signatures were turned in, the right wing took to their airwave monopoly with their stories of fraud. Everyone on the right has a friend whose brother in laws friend signed the petition 10 times( or some other variation of this urban legend). The hate sqwaukers were all to happy to continue telling these unverified fables.
These next two pics, touted as obvious fraud, come courtesy of wolf on back/ snake on chest herself:
Lets look at this. Is this fraud or a mistake? What probably happened here was Duffy Holloway was probably told to recall both Walker/Kleefisch he had to sign twice. He probably misinterpreted that to mean twice in a row, he made the mistake and crossed it out. On the same sheet, Corrina Williams signed her name and then probably thought she had to put down Scott walkers name as the person she wanted to recall. She did not sign scott walker to the petition. Are either of these fraud? No! Nor were either of these counted by United WI in their final total.
One more example:
Let’s take a logical look at what probably happened here. A group of people stopped to sign the recall petition and all got into a discussion(the petitioners were our friends and neighbors) and passed the clipboard around. One of the people in the group was probably visiting from Ithaca, NY and in the process accidentally signed the petition. Is this fraud? NO! This signature was also not counted in the 1,000,000+ total by United WI but this sheet needed to be turned in since there are 9 legit signatures on it.
Let’s move on to JSonline and their exam in the signatures link.
If you find signatures, names or addresses of people who signed the petitions that are noteworthy, you can submit them to our database in our Data on Demand portal. We will review submissions and post those that we can independently verify.
OOPs..Looks like JSonline is not following their own rules. They are allowing anonymous people to sift through the recall signatures and then comment about the “known fraud” (See urban legend reference above) and we do not know if it is darlene wink commenting, a 12 year old or an actual handwriting expert(although I am amazed how many actual handwriting experts there are in WI(more on this in a bit). Lets take a look at one example:
Recall petitions page 000664: Lines 4 & 5 – Brittney & Brooke Hietpas – same address.
Now lets look at the comments on the JSOnline website(please keep in mind that official policy is We will review submissions and post those that we can independently verify.)
651 14 4&5 Obvious false names Obviously same handwriting. 1/31/2012
Obviously same handwriting? It could not be that these two people, who are obviously sisters, and probably same age(twins) or very close in age and of the same sex would not have similar handwriting? I guess not since JSonline independently verified this. Unbelievable. PS: Hietpas seems to be a common name in Little Chute, shouldn't be hard to actually verify.
One more example before I wrap this up. This gem from the Racine Journal Times regarding verifying the recall signatures:
Marge Orth, 63, of Caledonia, also had a page filled with notes about flagged petitions. On some of petitions, she could tell the person that filled out the address was not the same as the person who dated the signature.
“The twos, they don’t match,” she said. She doesn’t know if the signatures she flagged will be thrown out, but she said, “You have to question it. We’ll let the lawyers figure it out.”
If 63 yr old Marge Orth can’t tell that “two’s dont match” who can? rest easy walker backers, Marge is on the case.
Ok now let’s get real and wrap this up. There is absolutely NO way that they will be able to throw out enough signatures to stop the recall election. Do you really want to anyway? as if our state is not divided enough as is, try and not have a recall elections after a million signatures and thousands of volunteers and watch it get even worse. Besides Scott Walker said he wanted this election ASAP, don’t you take him at his word?
I truly believe that the Walker campaign and supporters have every right to review the petitions. The Walker campaign has had .pdf versions of these petitions for days now. I think anyone who wants to help should go find a Walker for Gov office and sit and go through them. To put them online in a searchable database is insanity. To allow people from all over the country unfettered access to them is also insanity! To the walker backers that are putting their name in a verify the signatures – What do you think is going to happen with that database? Is it really necessary to use this database to make fun of fellow Wisconsinite’s last name? I would say that most people in Wisconsin whether their name is Smith or Heitpas or Orth are quite proud of their last name and no need to start throwing them out as legit signatures because you do not know someone with that name.
Let’s be clear now the amount of actual fraud will be miniscule, the signatures thrown out will be insignificant. These urban legends of fraud are just being done to create as much noise as possible to cast doubt on the process for people who are not paying 100% attention.
Shame on those that do this, you know better. Please stop, you’re hurting your cause and giving me a headache!